Viacom is watching D:

[Khamsin]

If it wasn't for Youtube's ability to track viewing habits and IPs, Google probably wouldn't have had interest in the first place. A lot of what google does is tied back to their major product: advertising.

They can do that without logging specifically each user's IP and what they've viewed. They can either do aggregate statistics, or if they want to advertise on a per-user basis, they can just keep track of the category of video the user visits. They have to know what tags/keywords/category the video falls under in order to appropriately implement targetted advertising anyway. So just track the tags/keywords/categories you tend to view, rather than specific videos.

[Dmitry]

hi, viacom, not the US government

That doesn't mean they can't report it to the government.

[Kiro]

hi, viacom, not the US government

You'd be surprised how thin the line between government and corporation is. :3

[Maxxthepenguin]

They can do that without logging specifically each user's IP and what they've viewed. They can either do aggregate statistics, or if they want to advertise on a per-user basis, they can just keep track of the category of video the user visits. They have to know what tags/keywords/category the video falls under in order to appropriately implement targetted advertising anyway. So just track the tags/keywords/categories you tend to view, rather than specific videos.

Yeah, except that still probably wouldn't have been worth the massive amounts of money they paid. IP data is damn useful for advertisers so they can track location. Google wouldn't have simply wanted to use youtube data to advertise on youtube. They wanted ALL of this data because it is all sellable.

So should we just let them do that or should we regulate?

[Khamsin]

Yeah, except that still probably wouldn't have been worth the massive amounts of money they paid. IP data is damn useful for advertisers so they can track location. Google wouldn't have simply wanted to use youtube data to advertise on youtube. They wanted ALL of this data because it is all sellable.

So should we just let them do that or should we regulate?

From now on, everybody just use proxies 24/7 on sites that have advertising, user shared content, or peer-to-peer transfers.

[guartz]

All this fear of the establishment is giving me flashbacks from the childhood.






you know, back when I lived in USSR

[MisterBob]

All this fear of the establishment is giving me flashbacks from the childhood.






you know, back when I lived in USSR

Shut up.


Fuck 10 letters

[HAcoreRD]

All this fear of the establishment is giving me flashbacks from the childhood.






you know, back when I lived in USSR

Let's duck under desks to protect us from Nukes!

[guartz]

Shut up.

Or what? You gonna wah wah about banning me?

What's with the hostility anyway?

[killerx]

Or what? You gonna wah wah about banning me?

What's with the hostility anyway?

Your a fucking retard, All the gad damn threads you used to make for no fucking reason, and im sure the list goes on and on. I dont do much on the forums and seeing your name piss's me off.

[guartz]

Your a fucking retard, All the gad damn threads you used to make for no fucking reason, and im sure the list goes on and on. I dont do much on the forums and seeing your name piss's me off.

Let me assure you, Killerx, all those fucking threads had a reason. It's not like I was spamming the boards with rickrolls. I understand topics beyond Naruto and Free coffee confuse you, but you should channel your anger in more constructive ways!

[Meriandle]

Naruto givin out free coffee?!

Oh... wait I misunderstood again.

[Correction]

It's not like I was spamming the boards with rickrolls.

No, but your unchanging 'guartz doesn't trust the gub'mint or large corporations' message has sunk in--we get it, really--and you saying it over and over again contributes very little. Especially when you don't actually make a remark about the topic on hand like 'Oh, but who will ensure that Verizon does not blah blah blah' or 'Verizon only wants the lists to check popularity of pirated material? IT'S POPULAR YOU CHUCKLEHEADS!' or even the very-unlikely-coming-from-you 'Google will succeed in anonymizing the logs before they're sent to Verizon there is no threat to privacy move along folks'

SOMETHING Along those lines would be better than 'hurr I'm paranoid and the U.S. is becoming a fascist police state etc etc.' The frustration/hostility is that after all your posts on this board you're not making much effort into improving the quality of your contributions.

[Kiro]

I don't trust shit anymore.

Goddamn Zeitgeist.

[MisterBob]

I don't trust shit anymore.

Goddamn Zeitgeist.

lol @ Zeitgeist. I'm really surprised anyone takes any of that movie seriously at all.

[Kiro]

You're just blind to the truth 'cause your simple mind can't handle it! :O

[Maxxthepenguin]

lol @ Zeitgeist. I'm really surprised anyone takes any of that movie seriously at all.

People are stupid. Especially those who think they are smart.

[guartz]

No, but your unchanging 'guartz doesn't trust the gub'mint or large corporations' message has sunk in--we get it, really--and you saying it over and over again contributes very little. Especially when you don't actually make a remark about the topic on hand like 'Oh, but who will ensure that Verizon does not blah blah blah' or 'Verizon only wants the lists to check popularity of pirated material? IT'S POPULAR YOU CHUCKLEHEADS!' or even the very-unlikely-coming-from-you 'Google will succeed in anonymizing the logs before they're sent to Verizon there is no threat to privacy move along folks'

SOMETHING Along those lines would be better than 'hurr I'm paranoid and the U.S. is becoming a fascist police state etc etc.' The frustration/hostility is that after all your posts on this board you're not making much effort into improving the quality of your contributions.

Unless you plan on rebutting every single person who throws out a half-witted pun or arbitrary reference to all the posts that are made in general chat, I say you have no right to single out my particular style of forum correspondence.

But for the sake of the conversation, I do offer insight sometimes, certainly not this thread, but it does happen. Is it appreciated? Seldom. But that's because of the target audience, who come here to shoot shit, proverbially speaking, not research current events.

So my question to you, Correction, is that are you really so disillusioned or do you just don't like me, , because trust me, with some many similar replies the message has sunk in--we get it, really. You don't like me. Get over it.

[shihei]

If guartz made a social group, I would join it. That's how awesome he is.

/ignoring trollbait flames so don't waste your breath

[Elvis]

this is an outrage