So... Pandemonium.

[Starr]

I don't see why Therin.

[ronin sparthos]

-Hachiryu Haramaki
-Crapaud Earring
-Roundel Earring (someone said Serket, never saw pics so i assume PW)
-Nanatsusaya
-Shlng. Baghnakhs
-Wise Strap
-Witch Sash
-Brave Grip

...are the unconfirmed PW drops no? Still looks like a decent pool up for grabs, regardless of the weaknesses of some tier 4 drops.

[Therin]

I don't see why Therin.

I'm gonna go with 3 STR (2.25 attack), 8 DEX (6 accuracy), 3 Attack, 2 Store TP vs. 2% Double Attack. Should be obvious.

[Ferien]

The Store TP on both Askar and Aurum are extraneous if you're wearing Rajas and Brutal. I'd lump them into the situational pile with everything else.

[Starr]

I'm gonna go with 3 STR (2.25 attack), 8 DEX (6 accuracy), 3 Attack, 2 Store TP vs. 2% Double Attack. Should be obvious.

Store TP irrelevant and the STR and Attack won't do more total damage than 2% Double Attack, I guess it would be better when you are 3% or more from 95% accuracy.

[CelinaAlexander]

Store TP irrelevant and the STR and Attack won't do more total damage than 2% Double Attack, I guess it would be better when you are 3% or more from 95% accuracy.

Something else to take into consideration is how much double attack somebody already has. Double Attack has comparatively diminishing returns versus STR and Attack, since the STR and Attack mean more and more as you gain Double Attack activation rate.

[Khrno]

I find rather funny when someone says that theya re capped on Acc (even if it's only on Colibris), leaving DRGs aside, when not using an Acc body tho.

And Aurum > Askar body for WAR and DRK, unless you have an Acc+20 relic on hand.

[Judai]

Love the response. Yes, they can and are very often a total mindfuck. However, it's showing up every day for the chance that keeps people going. Same reason you do Dyna or anything else over and over. It's for that possible chance. Only difference with kings is the botting. This argument is not about botting, it's about the statement you made about how old content is outdated when it's not. The newer alternatives are just as lucrative as the old. However, not going to kings and at least attempting to claim/hope for drop is only lessening your chances of obtaining whatever it is you desire to get from them is what I'm saying.

Camping kings every day is an every day chance at owning whatever item it is that you camp for. This is my point. It's an every day opportunity to own a very nice item. Chances vary depending on who is honestly trying to claim/amount of people botting/luck factor, but so do the chances of everything else in this game too. But saying the content brought by kings is outdated is incorrect. Ebody probably never will be outdated. Dring will always be a great item and have it's uses. Dalmy is a great piece, althought their are other alternatives, some better, some about the same. Mbody is in the same boat. It's still a great tanking piece. Not everyone will ever own AFv2 or Ares body. Some may play for years and never see AFv2 drop to them or the 3rd body piece for their Salvage body piece drop.

Everything has to do with luck. Bots do scew what's fair for kings but the chance is still there.

I was going to post a big post to rebuttal everything but I'm tired of having this arguement with idiots. You highly exagerate King camping to justify it though. The biggest flaw in your arguement is that you don't have a chance at your Body Abj.s EVERYDAY. You camp for junk items 3-9 days and 1-2 days a week you have a SHOT at POSSIBLY CLAIMING the HQ that MIGHT drop the body armor you and 17 other people want.

Salvage IS possible EVERYDAY and you are GUARUNTEED to be able to fight 90% of the NMs, depending on your path/goal(Bhaf is only one without guanunteed pops and Mtz Rings/Range can fuck you for 5FN). If you did Salvage as much as you did Kings, you would get a ton of drops. (My group has like 11 Body drops in last 9 months or so(3Mard,1Usu,4Morri,3Ares's)

So keep on trying to exagerate the amazing drop rate/chancefrom Kings and how horrible the drops rate/chance is at other content.

[Chupunpupun]

Something else to take into consideration is how much double attack somebody already has. Double Attack has comparatively diminishing returns versus STR and Attack, since the STR and Attack mean more and more as you gain Double Attack activation rate.

Both STR and ATK have diminishing returns.

[Starr]

Something else to take into consideration is how much double attack somebody already has. Double Attack has comparatively diminishing returns versus STR and Attack, since the STR and Attack mean more and more as you gain Double Attack activation rate.

huge wtf

[VZX]

-Hachiryu Haramaki
-Crapaud Earring
-Roundel Earring (someone said Serket, never saw pics so i assume PW)
-Nanatsusaya
-Shlng. Baghnakhs
-Wise Strap
-Witch Sash
-Brave Grip

...are the unconfirmed PW drops no? Still looks like a decent pool up for grabs, regardless of the weaknesses of some tier 4 drops.

Cuchulain's Mantle?

[Kaslo]

Cuchulain's Mantle?

and Belt...

As for Aurum Body, I could maybe see it on DRG Penta Thrust gear if they don't have Askar... but that's about it...

[ronin sparthos]

Cuchulainn items are Lambton Worm drops based on the lore.

Really interested in seeing if the Cure Potency earring is indeed PW or if the Serket rumor was true.

[Noob]

I was going to post a big post to rebuttal everything but I'm tired of having this arguement with idiots. You highly exagerate King camping to justify it though. The biggest flaw in your arguement is that you don't have a chance at your Body Abj.s EVERYDAY. You camp for junk items 3-9 days and 1-2 days a week you have a SHOT at POSSIBLY CLAIMING the HQ that MIGHT drop the body armor you and 17 other people want.

Salvage IS possible EVERYDAY and you are GUARUNTEED to be able to fight 90% of the NMs, depending on your path/goal(Bhaf is only one without guanunteed pops and Mtz Rings/Range can fuck you for 5FN). If you did Salvage as much as you did Kings, you would get a ton of drops. (My group has like 11 Body drops in last 9 months or so(3Mard,1Usu,4Morri,3Ares's)

So keep on trying to exagerate the amazing drop rate/chancefrom Kings and how horrible the drops rate/chance is at other content.

Just another whiny bitch post about kings. I never exaggerated the drop rate from kings. I'm trying to convey maximization and the fact that drop rates are not the same for everyone, whether that be kings, salvage, dynamis, etc. Filling your plate with every option to equip yourself better is the smartest thing you can do towards maximization. If you don't at least attempt to camp kings for body pieces/Dring which you could put to great use in situations(for some jobs) where a salvage body piece isn't best, you're not attempting to reach your full potential.

I understand the chance to obtain a body piece from a HQ king is once every 3~x(x) amount of days. I also understand the chance to claim isn't too great for most. I also understand the lotting lines in place within shells for these pieces. However, the chance is why it's worth it. Those pieces are nice. If you don't think so, you're pretty fucking stupid.

[majriti]

Just another whiny bitch post about kings. I never exaggerated the drop rate from kings. I'm trying to convey maximization and the fact that drop rates are not the same for everyone, whether that be kings, salvage, dynamis, etc. Filling your plate with every option to equip yourself better is the smartest thing you can do towards maximization. If you don't at least attempt to camp kings for body pieces/Dring which you could put to great use in situations(for some jobs) where a salvage body piece isn't best, you're not attempting to reach your full potential.

I understand the chance to obtain a body piece from a HQ king is once every 3~x(x) amount of days. I also understand the chance to claim isn't too great for most. I also understand the lotting lines in place within shells for these pieces. However, the chance is why it's worth it. Those pieces are nice. If you don't think so, you're pretty fucking stupid.

i will half-agree with you on this, tho some of these items are nice from kings still. mainly only ebody, wbody, nleg, nhead and dring. i come to light on how pointless it is to skip an instanced event to waste 3hrs of my play time just to lose claim on a king and not fight something, be out that time and then realize how i suddenly dont have the members to do something garenteed cuz we wasted our time camping a stupid fucking king


fyi, ridill fucking sucks, unless ur an exp whore and dont do hnms imo, i hate ppl cryin about this shit.....esp thfs

[Judai]

Just another whiny bitch post about kings. I never exaggerated the drop rate from kings. I'm trying to convey maximization and the fact that drop rates are not the same for everyone, whether that be kings, salvage, dynamis, etc. Filling your plate with every option to equip yourself better is the smartest thing you can do towards maximization. If you don't at least attempt to camp kings for body pieces/Dring which you could put to great use in situations(for some jobs) where a salvage body piece isn't best, you're not attempting to reach your full potential.

I understand the chance to obtain a body piece from a HQ king is once every 3~x(x) amount of days. I also understand the chance to claim isn't too great for most. I also understand the lotting lines in place within shells for these pieces. However, the chance is why it's worth it. Those pieces are nice. If you don't think so, you're pretty fucking stupid.

Seriously? Dalm sucks compared to Morri, I don't need it. Mbody is shit compared to Ares's, I don't need it. EBody I will get from Einherjar. Ridill is nice but overrated. DRing is nice but I don't need it so bad I am willing to camp everyday for 3hrs a day(especially since one hasn't dropped in like over a year on Ifrit). Sorry, you are wrong, King Bodies will do nothing for me other then EBody, which I will get without sitting in Aery for 3hrs a day.(and tbh Hachiryu Body looks like it could be better then EBody now)

You also implied that Kings have better drop rates when you said other events have horrible drop rates. Otherwise your point had no meaning and was even more idiotic. You also clearly said you get to fight Kings everyday for the gear you want, where other events have a timer on them. Which again, you imply you have more chances to get King gear then other gear, which is completely false and it's actually the complete opposite in regards to Salvage.

I never said anything about people who try to kill Kings while they do all the other events and new content. My point was about the people who don't try the new events because they are too busy camping Kings 24/7. You obviously didn't pick up on my point since you are now trying to argue about people who do both kings and newer events to maximize themselves. If you can and are willing do both great but alot of people aren't and are choosing RotZ content only, which is stupid imo.

Learn to read an arguement and don't try to add in shit that wasn't said or implied in order to swing your arguement another way.

[majriti]

Seriously? Dalm sucks compared to Morri, I don't need it. Mbody is shit compared to Ares's, I don't need it. EBody I will get from Einherjar. Ridill is nice but overrated. DRing is nice but I don't need it so bad I am willing to camp everyday for 3hrs a day(especially since one hasn't dropped in like over a year on Ifrit). Sorry, you are wrong, King Bodies will do nothing for me other then EBody, which I will get without sitting in Aery for 3hrs a day.(and tbh Hachiryu Body looks like it could be better then EBody now)

You also implied that Kings have better drop rates when you said other events have horrible drop rates. Otherwise your point had no meaning and was even more idiotic. You also clearly said you get to fight Kings everyday for the gear you want, where other events have a timer on them. Which again, you imply you have more chances to get King gear then other gear, which is completely false and it's actually the complete opposite in regards to Salvage.

I never said anything about people who try to kill Kings while they do all the other events and new content. My point was about the people who don't try the new events because they are too busy camping Kings 24/7. You obviously didn't pick up on my point since you are now trying to argue about people who do both kings and newer events to maximize themselves. If you can and are willing do both great but alot of people aren't and are choosing RotZ content only, which is stupid imo.

Learn to read an arguement and don't try to add in shit that wasn't said or implied in order to swing your arguement another way.

wow, u made it sound so much better

[AlexRuzhyo]

Buddy says they've been doing this for 7.5 hours now. No info other than that, he's busy.

[Gere]

WTF? This has gotta be a joke, can someone else on Garuda confirm?