Pandemonium Warden - The aftermath theories.

[Theenabler]

This thread is going major derail on how .dats work

[Correction]

This thread is going major derail on how .dats work

Given that nobody's killed it yet it's either discussion about .dats or a mixture of zam-style speculation and actual data from the shells that fought it.

Once someone kills it of course we can resume the usual cycle of 'WTF NO DROPS' and the eventual trolling from Excellence members about how folks who kill it no faster than 30 minutes are noobs and terrible players.

[Aldaris]

Anybody know the rom/dat for PW?????

[Rocl]

I'm smiling profusely.

Did you see the bit where they tried and nothing happened?

[AlexRuzhyo]

Feel free to ignore this. Theory Bullshit.

Not one for the theories, and the thread's almost shot to hell with it at this point because it burns my eyes, but I'd like to share my idea, although I'm not sure if it's been said. I personally don't have an idea on how to "end" him, but...

What if the longer the fight goes on, the greater the rewards. Each repop will result in a new item being added to the possible treasure pool, and actually "killing" the fucker has a puzzle to do with the lamps.

No sure how this theory holds, but the drops may be themed based on what forms he pops as (Like killing Zazarg gives a chance for Shenlong to drop). I don't have a list of unknown drops at this point, though.

[Jackyl]

wish i was a moderator so i could lock threads like this

[Lordwafik]

Why should it be locked? it's just people discussing. When another group pops pande and has more info, we can close this one, refer to this one , and start a new one. That thread too will end up in derail with people discussing , theorizing, etc.
Only thing I'd do is split the thread, but I wasn't keeping up with it much. If anyone knows which page the garuda shell stops fighting and the theorizing begins, I'll gladly split the thread.

[pohibaba]

Fight started with AlexRuzhyo's post (#94) on page 4; fight ended with Jackyl's post (#123) on page 5

[Lordwafik]

here goes, hopefully I don't blow up the boards as splitting posts with Vbulletin is a bit more different than phpbb3

edit : yay split worked. Enjoy

[BadKarma]

any bets it would turn into Cerb Hydra and Khim before it died?

[Khamsin]

Pandemonium Warden does bear a slight resemblence to the emperor of Pandemonium in Final Fantasy II. Too bad bosses don't have their own battle music (outside of BCs). They could change Aydeewa's background music for everyone in the zone, like they do for campaign, to FFII's Castle Pandemonium music when PW is popped. On top of that, they could change the battle music when engaged to PW to the final battle music in FFII.

http://www.videogamesprites.net/Fina...eror%20(2).gif

Ok... so the resemblence is only that they both have skulls for heads, but that's close enough for a speculation thread, right?

[Lyn]

any bets it would turn into Cerb Hydra and Khim before it died?

I think our entire linkshell lost the bet with PW on what he'd turn into next.

[Max™]

Don't think ANYONE expected the form spam.

I expected repopping.

We're all actually speculating, trying to assume something based on some numerological coincidence, previous mob behavior, a divine conviction about the programmers lines of thought, or anything else.

There hasn't been a monster like this yet, safe to say.

Ix'DRK does the "am I gonna stop RRing yet?" dance, there are a couple of monsters with at least token form changes upon RR, but to my knowledge there isn't one where the amount of pets at time of death seems to have an effect on it (this is still based on what looked like the original chariot form repopping in the first fight where one was left up) so yeah, we're all technically talking out of our asses here.

It is kind of useful for anyone who intends to fight this to have at least one person there with the renamed .dat files, and possibly artmoney or some other memory program access.

[Kaylia]

Pandemonium Warden does bear a slight resemblence to the emperor of Pandemonium in Final Fantasy II. Too bad bosses don't have their own battle music (outside of BCs). They could change Aydeewa's background music for everyone in the zone, like they do for campaign, to FFII's Castle Pandemonium music when PW is popped. On top of that, they could change the battle music when engaged to PW to the final battle music in FFII.

http://www.videogamesprites.net/Fina...eror%20(2).gif

Ok... so the resemblence is only that they both have skulls for heads, but that's close enough for a speculation thread, right?

How do you kill it in FF2? Using weapon?

Anyone tried using weapon on PW?

[Spira]

in FF2, blood sword raped that bitch silly.

[Max™]

in FF2, blood sword raped that bitch silly.

Ridill Bloodweapon zerg go!

Oh... wait... holy shit... BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!

[further]

I realize you all think we know exactly how the game works based on the years of DAT mining, etc. It would be silly not to consider the possibility you are wrong about at least a few details, though.

That is all I am saying. If you haven't seen the code, you only KNOW so much. The rest is just your educated (sometimes VERY educated) guess.

[Charismatic]

How do you kill it in FF2? With weapond?

Anyone tried using weapon on PW?

You didn't have to do any special stuff, it was the boss of the game and was really damn easy.
Also, he didn't shapeshift... at least I don't remember him doing so.


But fighting PW to the Pandemonium Castle music would be so fucking epic, holy shit (I've always loved that music)

[Khamsin]

How do you kill it in FF2? With weapond?

Anyone tried using weapon on PW?

Yep, you killed him with weapons.

[Charismatic]

I don't know why, but that made me laugh pretty hard.
I was thinking about typing something like that in my post, but I couldn't do it!