Pandemonium Warden - The aftermath theories.

[Faithe]

Maybe you can't "defeat" Pandemonium Warden?

Do you get the defeat message after each form? Do you get gil? Maybe if you get TH4 on Pandemonium's each model, it will drop something after you defeat them.

[Spira]

not likely..
SE wouldnt be that kind to allow you to effective farm him for drops with 1 trigger..

in anycase, he can be killed cos he does give a title thats been found in the dats

[Judai]

No, I'm bitching because I have a different theory which I'd like to see debunked or proven first, cause it would at least conceiveably be simpler and possibly result in just a single annoying fight, vs all the prep fights, title getting, and in some cases still having multiple repops.

Titles is easy to test, since you can test it right on pop. If it doesn't work, you move to Theory 2. What was yours anyways, about the Lamps?

[Max™]

All lamps up, and preferably undamaged, since I'm guessing all or nothing might have an effect, testing if the logic continues: 1 up = redo, 0 up = cycle, 8 up = ???.

[Starr]

Maybe you can't "defeat" Pandemonium Warden?

Do you get the defeat message after each form? Do you get gil? Maybe if you get TH4 on Pandemonium's each model, it will drop something after you defeat them.

Yeah that would be nice, dropping an item after each defeat but it has a small drop rate, then those 24/7 LS could hold it for weeks til they're capped on gear

[donnie]

2/3 for pandy , and tomorrow is cerberus x7 so hopefully we have 3/3 by tomorrow :D

[The Stig]

not likely..
SE wouldnt be that kind to allow you to effective farm him for drops with 1 trigger..

in anycase, he can be killed cos he does give a title thats been found in the dats

AV gives a title and he can't be (ohshit here we go) killed.... (yet) (excluding the "wall" kills... or the lucky "locks")

[Virtuous Saint]

AV gives a title and he can't be (ohshit here we go) killed.... (yet) (excluding the "wall" kills... or the lucky "locks")

Moron

[Max™]

The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention...

Now THAT, IS, I~rony!

[donnie]

2/3 for pandy , and tomorrow is cerberus x7 so hopefully we have 3/3 by tomorrow :D

so um , 0 sarameya Hide dropped >..> bleh

[Lordwafik]

least you got 7 cerb hides!

[Castoth]

I honestly think T4 drop rate will be adjusted in the next patch. It's ridiculous that so few have even been able to gather all three pop items for PW. People were bitching about the drop rates in Sea, which look easier in comparison to popping PW and Square eventually fixed that. While I don't think it should be 100%, at least something more reasonable where, as mentioned above, if you fight Sarameya 7 times in a row, you should be damn near guaranteed to get at least 1-2 pop items.

If we continue to rise up our voices and complain to SE enough in volume, change will happen. Then maybe, this thread can move forward more, as people can actually, y'know, *pop* the damn NM to try theories out on.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I honestly think T4 drop rate will be adjusted in the next patch. It's ridiculous that so few have even been able to gather all three pop items for PW. People were bitching about the drop rates in Sea, which look easier in comparison to popping PW and Square eventually fixed that. While I don't think it should be 100%, at least something more reasonable where, as mentioned above, if you fight Sarameya 7 times in a row, you should be damn near guaranteed to get at least 1-2 pop items.

If we continue to rise up our voices and complain to SE enough in volume, change will happen. Then maybe, this thread can move forward more, as people can actually, y'know, *pop* the damn NM to try theories out on.

I kind of expect it. The dev team has a hard on for keeping things secret and gradually opening things up. They also like to release things that are too difficult or frustrating at first (See: CoP missions, Einherjar, Sea, Alexandrite, etc). They usually nerf frustration and difficulty before too long.

[Castoth]

Of course, they also just revealed that AV is basically an 18 hour fight if done right. Suddenly, my optimism for change is dashed a bit...

[Colenzo]

Of course, they also just revealed that AV is basically an 18 hour fight if done right. Suddenly, my optimism for change is dashed a bit...

Where did they say this? I didnt see o.o;

[Boyiee]

Where did they say this? I didnt see o.o;

I think he said that because they used 2hr's about 9 times in the video.

[Guitarman]

Going through the recording now, Sundi told Ganiman that AV can be up to an 18 hour fight LOL

This is where they got it from.

[Hashmalum]

Going through the recording now, Sundi told Ganiman that AV can be up to an 18 hour fight LOL

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[Rocl]

No, I'm bitching because I have a different theory which I'd like to see debunked or proven first, cause it would at least conceiveably be simpler and possibly result in just a single annoying fight, vs all the prep fights, title getting, and in some cases still having multiple repops.

Wait you're complaining because people aren't paying attention to your theory? Why don't you go pop it your fucking self then? Arm-chair theorists deserve to be shot.

[RKenshin]

We just recently finished a PW set, along with 3 extra Tinnin fangs and 1 extra Sarameya hide... And enough zeni to pump out quite a few more T4s for a potential 1-2 additional sets.

We'll be using the PW set sometime soon. Preparing to expect a 3-6+ hour fight or however long it may take.