Pandemonium Warden - The aftermath theories.

[RKenshin]

Was this documented in this thread? I never saw it updated. Could someone link this?

Not documented, discussed via PM. They had 18 different titles prepared for it, and their encounter was no different.

Not sure whether or not they were comfortable with discussing it publicly yet, so I'd prefer to leave it to them to decide. Not much else to discuss further though.

[Zoot]

Holy fucking shit, you aren't even worth it.

[jaryk]

...read again please. I didn't say I was in the top 20 on my server... I said:

"...freaks me out when I see my name in the top 20 >>> checked <<< on the server list."

however, now that you mention it I AM number 44 =0P

go to FFXIAH.COM and look at where is says "Players Most Viewed Today", being on THAT list scares me.

Please go away, don't say you're going to stop posting and come back every 30 seconds. Go away, go die in a fire, I don't care but please go away and do not come back for any reason.

[Toxictaru]

"I'm more amused that the person trolling has been registered since October 2006, so they've known about these forums and have probably been playing FFXI for as long.... You can't get a job to 75 in almost 2 years? You suck, go away, etc." -- ok, I get it... your all just teasing me now? dammit... now I got wooshed by sarcasm ; ;

I think you're missing the point. For someone who claims to have so much leveled or whatever (and I love the part where you hated seeing your name on the top 20 like anyone of us actually cared, clearly YOU do), you seem pretty clueless about all of this. I think you need to take a step back, stop typing and show some damn respect for the people trying to figure this out so that in 2 years when you finally realize that sky isn't all that end-game has to offer, you'll be able to take it on something bigger and better and a hell of a lot more challenging.

[Raithen]

Not documented, discussed via PM. They had 18 different titles prepared for it, and their encounter was no different.

Not sure whether or not they were comfortable with discussing it publicly yet, so I'd prefer to leave it to them to decide. Not much else to discuss further though.

I really mean no offense to you or SapereAude when I say this, but I don't think most people will accept this without evidence. I do agree with you entirely when you said all of the NMs are in the zone for a reason and that reason is for you to kill them. It would just be nice to see some proof that the one seemingly-possible theory is false.

[Therin]

Trolls like these guys don't deserve the key presses that it takes to respond to them. They'll go away if you just ignore them. In fact, you can even add them to the Ignore list so you don't see their posts.

[Kimiko]

Apparently there's a rumor going around that a JP ls on Levi has killed PW and it dropped Hachi body and someone named Goodspeed got it. Confirm / Deny? Anyone?

We've had similar rumors of a JP linkshell (Priceless) here on Siren performing the same feat. I've yet to see any sort of hard confirmation, but honestly I would not be surprised at all if they were the first.

edit: Verified by least 3 other sources at this point. I'm still in POIDH mode at this point, but considering how ungodly good Priceless is... wow...

[Guitarman]

I really mean no offense to you or SapereAude when I say this, but I don't think most people will accept this without evidence. I do agree with you entirely when you said all of the NMs are in the zone for a reason and that reason is for you to kill them. It would just be nice to see some proof that the one seemingly-possible theory is false.

You would be wrong. Jackyl, Richardd, Ruke are all quite respected members of this community; they have nothing to gain by lying about this shit. They're not trying to hoard info to make a buck; theyre trying to figure the fucking mob out.

As for sumy, it takes a special kind of stupid twat to immediately declare Bl brainless retards "simply whacking it like a clipper" after an 18 hour endurance match they just lost.

[Sumy]

As for sumy, it takes a special kind of stupid twat to immediately declare Bl brainless retards "simply whacking it like a clipper" after an 18 hour endurance match they just lost.

that wasn't me... ; ;

Im the taru with so few posts so I get shunned, trying to convince everyone not to give up, in a misunderstood sarcastic manner.

whacking clippers was funny though... wish I had thought of that.

[miokomioko]

Sumy, GO AWAY.

[Therin]

We've had similar rumors of a JP linkshell (Priceless) here on Siren performing the same feat. I've yet to see any sort of hard confirmation, but honestly I would not be surprised at all if they were the first.

edit: Verified by least 3 other sources at this point. I'm still in POIDH mode at this point, but considering how ungodly good Priceless is... wow...

Bullshit unless you can find a Qweller title.

[Aurara]

Sumy, GO AWAY.

This, please...you're made yourself look like a big enough idiot already..don't make it any worse.

[Max™]

pan·de·mo·ni·um /ˌpændəˈmoʊniəm/ Pronunciation Key - [pan-duh-moh-nee-uhm]
–noun
1. wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos.
2. a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos.
3. (often initial capital letter) the abode of all the demons.
4. hell.

Trying to kill all of the lamps and all of the forms is trying to bring order to a chaotic situation.

I wouldn't be surprised if after you killed that last warden form, it repopped as a chariot again, honestly.

I'm just a wacko with no experience of the fight though, disregard my pointing out that leaving all of the lamps alive would be chaotic, pandemonium, and killing the warden might be the key to get out...

It doesn't make any sense at all, clearly. T.T

[Therin]

I feel like there could be a trick, but I feel that way about AV too, so who the fuck really knows.

[Sumy]

This, please...you're made yourself look like a big enough idiot already..don't make it any worse.

K, but just so you all understand

clipper phrase... although funny != Sumy.

[RKenshin]

I really mean no offense to you or SapereAude when I say this, but I don't think most people will accept this without evidence. I do agree with you entirely when you said all of the NMs are in the zone for a reason and that reason is for you to kill them. It would just be nice to see some proof that the one seemingly-possible theory is false.

I get what you mean, but what further evidence is needed? One linkshell tried a large set of different titles and experienced the same thing as two other linkshells that didn't try titles. I don't expect people to fully accept it, but it is illogical to not at least recognize what is more likely here.

It isn't quite irrefutable proof, but it is much more than what supports the former, which is only a wild guess. Not to mention the countless complications in the fact that titles don't exist to explain all of the repops, as our attempt has also brought to evidence.

[Aurara]

edit: removed what i typed after i saw epical's post sorry.

[Epical]

Sumy and Co., stop it. Don't reply to this post, just don't reply at all. If you're going to post in this thread, it's going to be about PW. The last two pages have been unintelligible bickering, nothing more.

Anyways, Ruke (and BtL as a whole), sorry to hear about the 18 hours of disappointment. Extremely valient effort... ranks up there with the 21 (24?) hour AV by that LS on Odin.

[Demosthenes11]

pan·de·mo·ni·um /ˌpændəˈmoʊniəm/ Pronunciation Key - [pan-duh-moh-nee-uhm]
–noun
1. wild uproar or unrestrained disorder; tumult or chaos.
2. a place or scene of riotous uproar or utter chaos.
3. (often initial capital letter) the abode of all the demons.
4. hell.

Trying to kill all of the lamps and all of the forms is trying to bring order to a chaotic situation.

I wouldn't be surprised if after you killed that last warden form, it repopped as a chariot again, honestly.

I'm just a wacko with no experience of the fight though, disregard my pointing out that leaving all of the lamps alive would be chaotic, pandemonium, and killing the warden might be the key to get out...

It doesn't make any sense at all, clearly. T.T

do you have anything to add other than "QQ NOBODY WILL LISTEN TO ME"
you post this shit once every page, jesus man

[yayaok]

like everyone said, valient effort. i tip my hat to btl for being able to stay focused for so long and sacrafice 18 hours, as do many others i'm sure!

let me say one thing... i for one think the fight was meant to be retardely long. without a doubt, pandemonium and AV ranks up as some of the most absurb epic fights of all time... but there are a lot of broken mobs like these in other games.

i've been in the asian mmo scene for quite some time, and i can assure you guys when developers release an 'end-game' final boss, they always give it absurb amounts of HP and force a fight that typically takes hours and hours to take down. some examples could be L2's heavenly/darkness queens, MS' zakum/horntail/pinkbean (1.5bil HP) and so forth. those bosses, when first released, were thought impossible. most of the first victories of epic bosses are reported on a premium online gaming site, and i've never seen an article that stated less than 8 hrs worth investment on a first victory.
i've only played asia-developed mmos and thus gotten used to the mentality, and i never really got into games like d2, wow, ultima, etc. so i don't know how epic fights fare in typical 'western' mmorpgs, but asian motherfuckers love their endgame fights and their 5 hours+.

its just a different type of mentality, i hate it and yeah it sucks, but this one.. pandemonium was built for a stamina-comsuming fight, i can say with 90% assurance. maybe someday some LS will take it down, who knows. good efforts either way, to BtL and every other linkshells that have tried.