Pandemonium Warden - The aftermath theories.

[Starless]

I would not be surprised at all if the "trick" is simply something that isn't in the game yet, like

a)The Mythic Weapons. 20 weapons, 20 forms? I'm spewing out ideas.
b)That stupid tidal necklace nobody seems to know about.
c)lolGlory Crown? I'll purchase a plane ticket to Japan and Slug Shot somebody if this is the case.

I am adamant in the belief that there is a trick at all, though. If there isn't, then you must've been on the last form. The form you all wiped on just seems stupid, as stupid as fighting the thing for 18 hours, like a damned programmer's joke.

[Spekkio]

I would not be surprised at all if the "trick" is simply something that isn't in the game yet, like

a)The Mythic Weapons. 20 weapons, 20 forms? I'm spewing out ideas.
b)That stupid tidal necklace nobody seems to know about.
c)lolGlory Crown? I'll purchase a plane ticket to Japan and Slug Shot somebody if this is the case.

I am adamant in the belief that there is a trick at all, though. If there isn't, then you must've been on the last form. The form you all wiped on just seems stupid, as stupid as fighting the thing for 18 hours, like a damned programmer's joke.

tidal necklace?

[Dobrav]

I think they mean the tidal gates in Arrapago Reed or wherever

[fusionx]

I think they mean the tidal gates in Arrapago Reed or wherever

Yay for reading POL news
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61413

[Starr]

I think SE should fix the mob, make a public apology on BG and restore any pop items already used really. Would be the first time they've done something right.

[Loziel]

I would not be surprised at all if the "trick" is simply something that isn't in the game yet, like

a)The Mythic Weapons. 20 weapons, 20 forms? I'm spewing out ideas.
b)That stupid tidal necklace nobody seems to know about.
c)lolGlory Crown? I'll purchase a plane ticket to Japan and Slug Shot somebody if this is the case.

I am adamant in the belief that there is a trick at all, though. If there isn't, then you must've been on the last form. The form you all wiped on just seems stupid, as stupid as fighting the thing for 18 hours, like a damned programmer's joke.

We are heading into Ebon Panel / Jailer Weapons Territory. Please mind your heads and keep your arms safely inside the vehicle.

[Cochise]

AV was designed to promote NA JP and EU cooperation, not meant for hardcore gamers to get all bent out of shape because the can't dominate it.

If you want to defeat AV so bad setup an LS alliance from the three timezones and figure out JoL pops and AV what ifs.

[Tricen]

BG? pretty sure they'd go with a sanctioned site.

[Flarega]

AV was designed to promote NA JP and EU cooperation, not meant for hardcore gamers to get all bent out of shape because the can't dominate it.

If you want to defeat AV so bad setup an LS alliance from the three timezones and figure out JoL pops and AV what ifs.

Just leave.

[LinktheDeme]

Just leave.

he does have a point if you have 10 alliances i'm sure AV is killable ;o

[Therin]

I doubt it, I know I couldn't even fight AV with 180 people in load range. <_<

[Lordwafik]

PW looks fun! I can't wait to do this fight, even if it is a lump of bullshit, it'll be the funnest lump of bullshit ever.

[Epical]

I'm looking forward to the night you'll be eating those words Wafik. =P

[ronin sparthos]

AV was designed to promote NA JP and EU cooperation, not meant for hardcore gamers to get all bent out of shape because the can't dominate it.

If you want to defeat AV so bad setup an LS alliance from the three timezones and figure out JoL pops and AV what ifs.

Really? I suppose AV is going to drop loot for all those people across timezones that dont understand what the fuck the other is saying simply because of language barriers?

Can you really say that statement out loud while taking yourself seriously? People do HNMs for loot and possibly a title so what incentive is there to work across language barriers and timezones? A pat on the back from the devs before they send the GMs to dissect how the fuck you solved their 'perfect creation' and how best they can punish you indirectly?

The "dream team" suggestion where people all band together across the server to kill one monster is best left in 2005 when people actually gave a fuck about jumping through hoops for Square-Enix.

[Zoot]

[rant]

Spoiler: show

Yes, I've posted it repeatedly, not quite every page, but often enough... because hell, so far it's the only alternative to EIGHTEEN FUCKING HOURS OF GRINDING HP BARS...

200k Hp for the lamps, 100k for the warden, you kill the lamps, he pops up, sees what you did, laughs, and makes the fight harder... and harder... and oh maybe this time... NOPE, FUCKING KHIMAIRA WITH WINGS UP, HA HA FUCKERS, DIE!

Then, oh thank god, you get an actual Dvergr... with little Dvergrs.. (he doesn't pop those when he shows up between forms), so they get killed... then at 75% he resummons them, avvy's, and uses the scorched earth tactic on that section of Aydeewa... awesome.

My bet, if you beat that Dvergr... he'd repop again as something else.

Yet, the first attempt, the 1 lamp up affected the repop, it still remains unknown if killing a warden form with all the lamps up would change it (which would fit the "theme" of the fight)... so yeah, I'll bring it up periodically until someone finally says "WE TRIED IT, IT DIDN'T WORK, SHUT THE FUCK UP MAX!"

[/rant]
*breathes*

That's all.

I don't think this was mentioned but the Bomb lamps that spawn with Cerberus actually slowly decrease HP on their own and self destruct without even touching them. We killed I think all but two which self destructed themselves. When you kill them, they also self destruct as their last move if allowed. They also act in the nature of BB, using hellstorm and vulcanic impact.

[Seraphise]

PW looks fun! I can't wait to do this fight, even if it is a lump of bullshit, it'll be the funnest lump of bullshit ever.

Actually i'm pretty excited myself. I could see linkshells team up and just marathon it. Just constantly having people log on and off working on it, kind of equivalent to Seasonal Treants!

Not that I or any other shell will probably see this happen, still a cool thought.

[Meat]

PW looks fun! I can't wait to do this fight, even if it is a lump of bullshit, it'll be the funnest lump of bullshit ever.

let me know when u go, I'll volunteer a bunch of my guys to help out, whm's for raises or some shit

[Lordwafik]

I'm looking forward to the night you'll be eating those words Wafik. =P

Never!

Shit like this excites me, It might very well be impossible but at least it's entertaining, unlike AV which just ends you in 3 mins (which some might argue is better, get it over and done with).

[Deftscythe]

There are only 2 things that seem likely to me as far as SE's intentions with this mob.

Either:
A) They've forgotten FFXI doesn't have save points and think an 18-hour fight is A-OK!
or
B)They wanted PW to go undefeated for a while and will nerf it to reasonable levels in September.

[Seraphise]

There are only 2 things that seem likely to me as far as SE's intentions with this mob.

Either:
A) They've forgotten FFXI doesn't have save points and think an 18-hour fight is A-OK!
or
B)They wanted PW to go undefeated for a while and will nerf it to reasonable levels in September.

Or we just don't know the proper strategy to limit his amount of form shifts.
Don't think we'll ever find it out though.