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  1. #61
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    You always such a nice pos Bob. :D

  2. #62
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    Didn't I suggest this very idea few threads back? Kekekeke Now to see if they'll implement Gardening Care Plans!

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrno View Post
    I live in England, and started playing the game in March 2004, PC/US version. The EU version wasn't released until september of that same year with CoP.

    So what do you say for people like me that started playing that way?

    I wrote:
    It's *fucking stupid*, but it's still something they might try.


    Christ people, READ.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoon View Post
    Didn't I suggest this very idea few threads back? Kekekeke Now to see if they'll implement Gardening Care Plans!
    What exactly did you suggest? Because no other cunt seems to know what they've blocked yet.

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko View Post
    It's my trash email account anyway, I only use it for youtube comments, spam, and board related stuff. It's best function is that I don't actually have to log into my email to read the subject when it comes up through IM notification.
    Ahhh I got you. I have a similar system here at work that nukes me via IM when a server is down or a RAID fails. At least you were heady enough to set it up that way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue View Post
    What exactly did you suggest? Because no other cunt seems to know what they've blocked yet.
    I am still trying to figure out what was blocked also. Id like to know what this "suggestion" was also.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango View Post
    Ahhh I got you. I have a similar system here at work that nukes me via IM when a server is down or a RAID fails. At least you were heady enough to set it up that way.




    I am still trying to figure out what was blocked also. Id like to know what this "suggestion" was also.
    MSN notifies me whenever I get new mail, and my MSN contact is the email I used for these forums. It just sort of happens automatically.

  7. #67
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    They probably identified a few IPs as the source of the mass hackings and banned the block permanently. Not a country-wide ban.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik View Post
    They probably identified a few IPs as the source of the mass hackings and banned the block permanently. Not a country-wide ban.

    I was thinking something along those same lines.

  9. #69
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    Would it be feasible to ban all known proxies, and add more as they find them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    Would it be feasible to ban all known proxies, and add more as they find them?
    It takes about 20 minutes to pay out for a VPS and have it set up, about 8 to install all the needed software to proxy all of your requests and about 2 to point your router to that server's IP to proxy the traffic. And depending on how many systems you're running, you're looking at ~$10 US/month with no setup fee and 50GB worth of data transfer/month (it may be $15 total/month for the 50GB and $10 for the 25GB, don't remember exactly).

    So you're looking at cheap and fast setup...which means you can't keep up with the bans, period. It's even worse if they're paying out the money for use of any of the known bot-nets, or using IPs from abandoned or hijacked IP ranges.

  11. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeTasai View Post
    You know, if roughly 90% of Arabs that we came into contact with in this country were terrorists, it wouldn't be such an unpopular proposition to keep all 100% of them from setting foot in an airport/stadium/embassy/whatever. Your analogy fails both because of the scope of the Chinese RMT problem and because denying someone access to an MMO is a good deal different from denying them life or freedom.
    Just what is the amount of RMT that is Chinese and aren't? You seem to know the exact number or a very good estimate

    Edit: Also, what is the proportion of Chinese RMT to legit Chinese players?

  12. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Just what is the amount of RMT that is Chinese and aren't? You seem to know the exact number or a very good estimate

    Edit: Also, what is the proportion of Chinese RMT to legit Chinese players?
    There are no legit Chinese players, but there are Chinese players that aren't involved in the RMT racket.

    Technically.

  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    There are no legit Chinese players, but there are Chinese players that aren't involved in the RMT racket.

    Technically.
    And what of the Chinese players that began in the US, EU, or Japan but later moved to China? Are they any less "legit" than those still living in those regions?

    edited for EU

  14. #74
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankjr View Post
    And what of the Chinese players that began in the US, EU, or Japan but later moved to China? Are they any less "legit" than those still living in those regions?

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    I think they can afford to lose the 39 dollars in revenue a month from the 3 legit players in China. I don't see their stock crashing anytime soon from blocking Chinese IPs Q_Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    I think they can afford to lose the 39 dollars in revenue a month from the 3 legit players in China. I don't see their stock crashing anytime soon from blocking Chinese IPs Q_Q
    ha ha very funny motherfucker. Too bad relic gimp doesn't automatically make you funny or correct.

  16. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankjr View Post
    And what of the Chinese players that began in the US, EU, or Japan but later moved to China? Are they any less "legit" than those still living in those regions?

    edited for EU
    I understand and respect the Chinese players that have no ties to RMT and are just your average guy trying to play a game, no matter how they started. But from SE's standpoint, and probably even China's, they aren't supposed to be playing. Up until now, neither SE nor China has cared enough to do anything about it. And until we find out what SE has up their sleeves, this might not affect them at all.

  17. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    I understand and respect the Chinese players that have no ties to RMT and are just your average guy trying to play a game, no matter how they started. But from SE's standpoint, and probably even China's, they aren't supposed to be playing. Up until now, neither SE nor China has cared enough to do anything about it. And until we find out what SE has up their sleeves, this might not affect them at all.
    You're telling me that a guy that started playing ffxi in Sandusky, Ohio isn't supposed to be playing the game? Are you fucking high or retarded?

  18. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tankjr View Post
    You're telling me that a guy that started playing ffxi in Sandusky, Ohio isn't supposed to be playing the game? Are you fucking high or retarded?
    You are a fucking idiot. Pay attention, and try to comprehend before you speak.

  19. #79
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    I think what Tankjr means is someone who started playing in the US, then for some reason or another, is now in China.

  20. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchiah View Post
    You are a fucking idiot. Pay attention, and try to comprehend before you speak.
    Have you read a word I've posted? NO U applies here.

    You are in fact the "Fucking Idiot"

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