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  1. #141
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    i haven't read anything about mexican rmt, but carbuncle has a fairly big community of central american players who are definitely legit... and most of them ironically have a hard time making gil lol, but i guess if there is mexican rmt, this is the same argument for the legit chinese players aswell.

  2. #142
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    What a stupid fucking discussion in a FFXI advanced topic. Go do this in general where Guartz can join in Q_Q

  3. #143
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    One of the sources that could help curb RMT's would be not allowing visa gift cards, or whatever crap that is, and requiring a card with an actual bank behind it. Much easier to track and banks will only issue so many cards, and, if they're anything like mine, they will make you pay for replacement cards if you "lose" them. They'd be limited to how many different numbers they could get to spam in accounts.

    It would also be grand if they made people pay first month the instant they start playing, and get 1 or 2 months "free" after, and not like it is right now that you only pay at the end of the fist month, so that starting accounts would be pointless if they got banned before they could break even. They can still easily break even in a month, since the real cost only comes after they manage to stay unbanned when a new month comes around.


    But whatever, I am quite aware that it will likely never happen. I still think it could help though.

  4. #144
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    I don't think it's possible to allow take Visa and not take Visa gift cards, even if you could tell the difference, I highly doubt that Visa would allow it.

  5. #145
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    + you'll fuck over a lot of younger players who rely on gift carding

  6. #146
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    Paper Towels? Who needs paper towels, Under the sink they go!

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    Yes you would. This is the most common way I've seen this game, as well as others paid for by kids. I recommend this way of paying for the game countless times.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    + you'll fuck over a lot of younger players who rely on gift carding
    AND, older players like myself, who use a reloadable gift creditcard so that I don't need to use my real account in online transactions.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantih View Post
    AND, older players like myself, who use a reloadable gift creditcard so that I don't need to use my real account in online transactions.


    me too, hi5

  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchiah View Post
    2) Make it so that the penalty for buying gil has teeth. Right now, we ban gilsellers, and give the buyers a slap on the wrist. If you ban 5000 accounts for RMT activity, and you feel really good about the assertion they were RMT, start looking at where they transferred gil to and from in that month. There has to be a buyer somewhere. Ban his ass too.
    I thought anyone involved in the transaction of buying gil was banned, including buyer and seller? I mean, if they've found the seller, they can track the gil to the buyer(s). Are they really letting them off the hook without a permaban? Thats retarded if so, I thought everyone involved got the boot.

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttson View Post
    I thought anyone involved in the transaction of buying gil was banned, including buyer and seller? I mean, if they've found the seller, they can track the gil to the buyer(s). Are they really letting them off the hook without a permaban? Thats retarded if so, I thought everyone involved got the boot.
    How many assholes do you know in the game who have rediculous amounts of gil intensive gear but no visible means of support? How many are in your LS who don't craft, you never see them farm, yet they walk around wearing gear you busted your ass to afford? hint hint

  11. #151
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    They're dualbox crafting anytime you see them on.

  12. #152
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    Oh you mean dualbox crafting on their crafting mules that always seem to shrivel up and disappear under any kind of scrutiny?

  13. #153
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    A few months ago I tested the claim that you can copy a certain file in the POL directory and transplant it to another computer, and be able to log in to the accounts saved in POL without providing a password.

    Anyone know if this has been fixed yet? Who needs keyloggers when you can easily just copy a file and login to steal someone's gil/equipment.

    This game has some serious security issues. I've been diligent keeping my PC secure, but who knows how long till they start writing trojans that exploit some security flaw (flash), install themselfs, kill your virus scanner and firewall, then steal your account info.

    http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...oilHatArea.jpg

  14. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaliek View Post
    A few months ago I tested the claim that you can copy a certain file in the POL directory and transplant it to another computer, and be able to log in to the accounts saved in POL without providing a password.

    Anyone know if this has been fixed yet? Who needs keyloggers when you can easily just copy a file and login to steal someone's gil/equipment.

    This game has some serious security issues. I've been diligent keeping my PC secure, but who knows how long till they start writing trojans that exploit some security flaw (flash), install themselfs, kill your virus scanner and firewall, then steal your account info.

    http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...oilHatArea.jpg
    Why are you posting as if you are sending a coded spy message. If we all know what "certain file" you are talking about and the results of your oh so secretive unpublished test of the "certain" folder, then who are you trying to trick by not saying what it is.

  15. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaliek
    A few months ago I tested the claim that you can copy a certain file in the POL directory and transplant it to another computer, and be able to log in to the accounts saved in POL without providing a password.
    What file?

  16. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    + you'll fuck over a lot of younger players who rely on gift carding
    Technically according to the TOS, younger players aren't supposed to be playing without their parents' permission anyways.

    Also those gift cards are a god way out for alt accounts to be paid for, botted in, whatever and not having it tied to your main in case the banstick lands. All in all it would be getting rid of something that's heavily abused.

    As for anything else, I doubt that the cards aren't detectable, since the first 8 or so numbers can clue you in to the card's issuer.

    But as I said, this will never happen anyways.

  17. #157
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    TOS says 13+ And yes its pretty much 13-18 year olds asking for these gift cards

  18. #158
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    Apparently someone on KI (Post #3591661) just stated his entire country got blocked from PlayOnline. The country is the UAE (United Arab Emirates), can anyone verify this?

    The thing though, according to this website: http://www.find-ip-address.org/ip-co...utput=ipranges, SE would have to block the following IP address ranges:
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    Also, he just admitted that he bought Gil, too. So... yeah... >.>;

  19. #159
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melchiah View Post
    Curing ignorance is never irrelevant.
    You cure nothing. You sir, are a goddamn idiot.

    Since you demand perfection in examples, I guess he would have had to have said "people in the area south of the Ohio river and the Gulf of Mexico and east of the Mississippi River, unless living in Louisiana and west of said river (in which case they are counted) or in the state of Florida (in which case they are excluded); and in cases where said person is living in an area farther to the east than the Ohio River flows, they must live south of a line stretching roughly from Knoxville, KY to Richmond, VA." ...? There's, that's a definition of 'southerner' as we use today. I will expect you to talk like this in the future.

    You are a total moron if you think that using social colloquial phrases is a sign of ignorance. If anything, he should be lauded for actually using a phrase that implies some level of education, instead of just commenting on the lawlSouth/red states.

    By your logic, the following types of phrases imply ignorance when used (and thus presumably should not be used):
    "Asian" -- since so many people use various definitions as to what is technically 'asia' and what is not, everyone who ever used this blanketing term would be ignorant, by your standards. If you want to be an ass and fight using geographical standards, you now need to call people from the mideast and russia 'asians' now.
    "Midwest"-- It hasn't been the middle part of the west since before the US colonized west of the Mississippi. In fact, this is technically a more outdated term than said
    "Far East" -- NAs should never use this term... since it's actually far West to us.
    ...Among countless others.


    (A little) More on topic, if you want to say 'Chinese' IPs banned or related to RMT activities, do we mean the Han Chinese? They are the overwhelming majority, but hate that they're clumped together as the same persons as the racial minorities there. I'll just assume you're being 'ignorant' like the guy you flamed and you do indeed mean Han.


    ...
    Entirely unrelated to the rest of this post but on-topic (kind of), anyone ever say "Tienanmen Square" around some RMT to see if their computers exploded? Since that's a filtered word in the massive state-imposed epic firewall-filter and all, it would be amusing.

  20. #160
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