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    aliens...


    or leprchauns


    or... some... thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    Let's just go back to the basis. The source of their power come from DNA evolution according to Suresh, and a fucking eclipse take them away.

    Why aren't they losing them at night, or indoor?
    Could be that eclipses somehow have a psychological effect on us. But that doesn't work because people who don't see the eclipse because they were sleep or something would be unaffected. But then again, if an entire planet can see a total eclipse at the same time two years in a row, I don't see why people can't see eclipses in their sleep lol

    Honestly, I don't like the idea of an eclipse being tied to their power because that makes it seem more supernatural than science fiction, unless they can come up with a pseudo-science reason that an eclipse affects everyone's DNA (or adrenal glands. I think Suresh said their power is connected to that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Could be that eclipses somehow have a psychological effect on us. But that doesn't work because people who don't see the eclipse because they were sleep or something would be unaffected. But then again, if an entire planet can see a total eclipse at the same time two years in a row, I don't see why people can't see eclipses in their sleep lol

    Honestly, I don't like the idea of an eclipse being tied to their power because that makes it seem more supernatural than science fiction, unless they can come up with a pseudo-science reason that an eclipse affects everyone's DNA (or adrenal glands. I think Suresh said their power is connected to that).
    I would rather deal with supernatural explanation than poorly written science fiction. One is bound to end in a trainwreck, while the other force you to accept the universe the way it is.

    The eclipse on its own is fine, but it's a terrible plot twist in the context they gave us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    Honestly, I don't like the idea of an eclipse being tied to their power because that makes it seem more supernatural than science fiction, unless they can come up with a pseudo-science reason that an eclipse affects everyone's DNA (or adrenal glands. I think Suresh said their power is connected to that).
    Guarantee it'll be some bullshit with sunspots or solar flares.

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    And even the supernatural explanation has to make sense according to the things they've said and stated in the past, because once they contradict they just ruin continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    And even the supernatural explanation has to make sense according to the things they've said and stated in the past, because once they contradict they just ruin continuity.
    Of course, but it's a lot harder to stay coherent when there is no supernatural laws established. When you define something supernatural (ie: magic, spiritual force, completely differents physics), you simply have to stay coherant with the laws you defined, because they overwrite everything the reader know about the real world.

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    Isn't the supernatural law already in place in a way? Peter did see Charles again back in Season 1, or was that believed to be subconscious time travel or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Zer0- View Post
    Isn't the supernatural law already in place in a way? Peter did see Charles again back in Season 1, or was that believed to be subconscious time travel or something?
    Charles the black dude? Wasn't that a dream he had?

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    Yeah, the one where he asked if it was a dream or what. Although now that I think about it, it could be spirit-walking like Usutu and Hiro, but it still doesn't make sense with his interaction with Charles

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    He absorbed his first power from his mother, his mother's power is to see things in her dreams.

    However that wasn't really a future, you're right, it could be a kind of spirit walk (stolen from lost! even the part about smacking on the head)

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Zer0- View Post
    Isn't the supernatural law already in place in a way? Peter did see Charles again back in Season 1, or was that believed to be subconscious time travel or something?
    As long the show give us scientific explanations instead of supernatural explanations, I don't think we can consider it supernatural. I'm perfectly fine with "magical" explanations, but they need to explain the nature of their power at least.


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    And even if there was something supernatural, they need to define some sort of structures. After 3 seasons, we have no ideas how their power works, and they never attempted to give us an explanation. Considering it's the main theme of the show, they are doing a pretty poor job at giving us answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    He absorbed his first power from his mother, his mother's power is to see things in her dreams.

    However that wasn't really a future, you're right, it could be a kind of spirit walk (stolen from lost! even the part about smacking on the head)
    I always thought that he saw Charles based off of Charles's power, since we never find out what it was, so he implanted it in Peter's mind or something.

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    True, now thinking back, I think charles told peter that he was doing it and not peter.

    One day I'll watch s1 again when this is all over, and wipe out S2/3+ from my mind!

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    The only clue Suresh gave about the effects of an eclipse is how the moon affects all sorts of things, such as tides. Since tides are affected by gravitational pull, maybe its some BS about stuff in their blood polarizing in line with the stronger tidal pull from the sun being in line with the moon. But then you'd expect similar weird things to happen when all the planets are in alignment, too, which I'm sure happens once a month or two in the Heroes universe.

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    Don't give the writers any more ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    The only clue Suresh gave about the effects of an eclipse is how the moon affects all sorts of things, such as tides. Since tides are affected by gravitational pull, maybe its some BS about stuff in their blood polarizing in line with the stronger tidal pull from the sun being in line with the moon. But then you'd expect similar weird things to happen when all the planets are in alignment, too, which I'm sure happens once a month or two in the Heroes universe.
    Yeah, I went through the same thought process as you did. I went "Tides, gravity, etc...but then again, if this was the case it would happen more often than only during an eclipse. It could happen on new moons or other situations and at some point somewhere in the world someone would be under a very similar influence"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    The only clue Suresh gave about the effects of an eclipse is how the moon affects all sorts of things, such as tides. Since tides are affected by gravitational pull, maybe its some BS about stuff in their blood polarizing in line with the stronger tidal pull from the sun being in line with the moon. But then you'd expect similar weird things to happen when all the planets are in alignment, too, which I'm sure happens once a month or two in the Heroes universe.
    Do you lose your power when you suffer from blood pressure? Stand upside down? This kind of condition seem awfully unstable. But meh, at this point, i don't think I can accept any explanations unless it explains everything they went through now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    Do you lose your power when you suffer from blood pressure? Stand upside down? This kind of condition seem awfully unstable. But meh, at this point, i don't think I can accept any explanations unless it explains everything they went through now.
    Have any of the people with abilities suffered from blood pressure or stood upside down? If not, you may be on to something!

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    It's not a true eclipse, it's actually a giant UFO alien craft covering the sun. The gamma radiation emitted from the craft while it's covering the sun turns off their powers.

    /sarcasm

    Sadly, that's the only explanation I can think of.

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    hmm.. so HRG waited till they finished having sex before making his shot?

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