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    Somebody just wooshed themselves. >.>

    Anyway, Kring said a few months back that he was going to avoid time traveling in up coming volumes. Now I see how if nobody has the ability to do so. Show is going to try and start and zero again.

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    Loved the small comedic relief with Sylar in the office and the Claire/Hiro scene at the start.

    Was irked by the fact they half-assed Mrs. Bennett's "youngness" effect. One scene she would be all airbrushed, cut to Claire, go back and she is all old again. Ruined the moment for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eticket View Post
    They shot him in the head, 'Future' Peter didn't come back after being shot in the head.
    Agreed. Both Peter and Claire came back from getting stabbed with a foreign object in the back of the head, but both Peter and Arthur have died to bullets in the front of the head. And in Season One finale, Peter said if Claire shot him in the head, he would be killed. Something about the part of the brain that controls the regeneration is in the front of the brain, whereas the back is not critical. I think it's a bit of deus ex machina, but I think it's been consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euphy View Post
    Err, that looked similar to the "light" Hiro's mother had, which she gave to Hiro, and Arthur took it. Maybe it was it that light? There is no indication that Arthur put all of it into that batch of the formula.
    Its the same CG for when Arthur takes somebody powers as the Catalyst, just the Catalyst is a brighter and flasher version of it. Arthur transferred the Catalyst from his body into the formula (at that point it was gone), after all... it was just a piece of the formula that needed to remain in a human body to stay active. I imagine it like a regular infection/ virus - in that it needs a host to survive.

    When Arthur died it wasn't a a super bright glow that eminated from him, it was a subtle glow that covered his entire body... they cut the scene out after there and didn't show Peter again in that episode - as a way to make ppl curious if he got his powers back anyways. Also... I doubt Peter is gonna know he has his empathetic mimicry (sp) powers back instantly either, he is prolly gonna have to find it out by accident (que his fight against Nathan next episode - he will prolly realize he can fly again). But he will most likely start from ground 0 and have to re-acquire his individual powers

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    I was hoping Maya woulda opened the door and got mad and killed Mohinder when the eclipse ended. I hate that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd View Post
    Agreed. Both Peter and Claire came back from getting stabbed with a foreign object in the back of the head, but both Peter and Arthur have died to bullets in the front of the head. And in Season One finale, Peter said if Claire shot him in the head, he would be killed. Something about the part of the brain that controls the regeneration is in the front of the brain, whereas the back is not critical. I think it's a bit of deus ex machina, but I think it's been consistent.
    Brain Structures and Their Functions
    http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kins...humanlobes.gif
    What do each of these lobes do?
    Frontal Lobe- associated with reasoning, planning, parts of speech, movement, emotions, and problem solving
    Parietal Lobe- associated with movement, orientation, recognition, perception of stimuli (seems like this is the part Sylar tinkers with or is interested in)
    Occipital Lobe- associated with visual processing
    Temporal Lobe- associated with perception and recognition of auditory stimuli, memory, and speech


    Granted I understand that this is fiction we are talking about but there is some basis on reality, lobotomies are done on the frontal lobe and leave you a vegetable

    Side note Arthur kinda has to die, he's not the sort to be 2nd to anything and imo would not give up the control of his resources to Nathan.

    I wonder if his passing means the catalyst is gone completely or if it returned to where he got it since it doesn't seem like powers he has taken have returned to anyone (still alive).

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    ..granted Angela did say 'the back of the head' before they left but I really don't think it makes much difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    Arthur out of fucking nowhere.
    Not really.

    Arthur: Gabriel, go get Claire.
    Arthur: Gabriel, where's Claire?
    Sylar: Gone into thin air.
    Arthur thinks: Where would Hiro take her? Hmm...

    ...and figures it out "just in time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Not really.

    Arthur: Gabriel, go get Claire.
    Arthur: Gabriel, where's Claire?
    Sylar: Gone into thin air.
    Arthur thinks: Where would Hiro take her? Hmm...

    ...and figures it out "just in time."
    no.... how about arthur drew it like mendez and peter does, like he has done in past episodes before the eclipse? The brain is a weak spot for people with claires power, when she was almost raped by that jock in the first season she fell on a tree branch that impaled her head, once that happened she could not regenerate and was dead until the piece was taken out during the optopsy. also in the 1st season when peter first fought sylar, sylar sent shards of glass at him which once one piece was lodged in his brain peter just dropped dead. when later claire saw his body in the patreli home she pulled out the glass and he revived. it's nothing new it's actually the only weakness of anyone with that power as of now in the show besides the hatian of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Not really.

    Arthur: Gabriel, go get Claire.
    Arthur: Gabriel, where's Claire?
    Sylar: Gone into thin air.
    Arthur thinks: Where would Hiro take her? Hmm...

    ...and figures it out "just in time."
    He would have had all the time he wanted to figure it out, of course. He could have tried 300 different times and places before he found someone with the catalyst. He could have travelled back in time and forced Kaito to spill his guts about the catalyst. He could have travelled back in time to Claire to discover she didn't have the catalyst, then travel backwards intermittently in time until such a time as she did have it. He could have just checked the rooftop every night for years, blinking in 2-3 seconds at a time, etc etc etc. He's largely omnipotent, can stop time, and doesn't age, explanations are endless.

    There are a million possible explanations for how Arthur found Claire & Hiro, as there are for many (all?) of the other inconsistencies and plot holes in the show. I just wish the writers were better at explaining the apparent plot holes and inconsistencies during the course of the show, rather than waiting for blogs or interviews to explain themselves (or just letting fans puzzle it out on message boards like this one.) Had Arthur explained how he found them in a one-line throw away, that would have been just fine.

    There's at least one time an episode that I'm jarred out of the experience of watching the show by a "Why Didn't X do this?" or "Why didn't Power Y work this way here when it worked that way before?" and that's currently my biggest complaint about the show.

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    end of volume spoilers:
    Spoiler: show
    Sylar pisses off Eric Doyle after killing Meredith in a showdown... Claire turns badass... a new villain puts the heroes on a plane which crashes... Ando may get powers... Peter gets his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd View Post
    He would have had all the time he wanted to figure it out, of course. He could have tried 300 different times and places before he found someone with the catalyst. He could have travelled back in time and forced Kaito to spill his guts about the catalyst. He could have travelled back in time to Claire to discover she didn't have the catalyst, then travel backwards intermittently in time until such a time as she did have it. He could have just checked the rooftop every night for years, blinking in 2-3 seconds at a time, etc etc etc. He's largely omnipotent, can stop time, and doesn't age, explanations are endless.

    There are a million possible explanations for how Arthur found Claire & Hiro, as there are for many (all?) of the other inconsistencies and plot holes in the show. I just wish the writers were better at explaining the apparent plot holes and inconsistencies during the course of the show, rather than waiting for blogs or interviews to explain themselves (or just letting fans puzzle it out on message boards like this one.) Had Arthur explained how he found them in a one-line throw away, that would have been just fine.

    There's at least one time an episode that I'm jarred out of the experience of watching the show by a "Why Didn't X do this?" or "Why didn't Power Y work this way here when it worked that way before?" and that's currently my biggest complaint about the show.
    What bugs me is that I got the impression that previously, Arthur had no clue what the catalyst was, let alone who it would have resided in. It was my understanding that he went back in time to take the Catalyst from Hiro's mother, and just showed up in time to take it from Hiro instead. But how the hell would he have known to get it from Hiro's ma?


    Ah, forget it. The guy has Usutu's precognition, he probably painted his showdown with Hiro episodes ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    What bugs me is that I got the impression that previously, Arthur had no clue what the catalyst was, let alone who it would have resided in. It was my understanding that he went back in time to take the Catalyst from Hiro's mother, and just showed up in time to take it from Hiro instead. But how the hell would he have known to get it from Hiro's ma?


    Ah, forget it. The guy has Usutu's precognition, he probably painted his showdown with Hiro episodes ago.
    What doesn't make sense to me is that the future would've changed in some way w/ Hiro having the catalyst instead of Claire, that would probably have tipped Arthur off somehow but I would think with the company no longer having as strong an interest in Claire in season 1, things would've ended up drastically different. Wouldn't Hiro also be in the future? I mean its only 16 years later, how is he lost in history and not just a little older and without his powers?

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    ^maybe next episode? I was hoping for older Hiro as well

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    Why are we explaining that the brain has a sweetspot(s) that you cant recover from unless the object is removed(and it's unknown if theres a sweet spot you CANT recover from).

    This should be common knowledge.

    As for "Why didnt Mohinder cure himself before injecting the guy first? LOL PLOTHOLE"

    A) Noone even knew if it would work
    B) He doesnt know if it can cure, it gives people powers so why would the same thing cure them too?
    C) I think something bad happened the last time he injected something into himself that fast lol wonder what that was

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    http://66.221.121.71/kerberoz/anicake.gif

    best line in the entire series so far... anyone have a version with text or can make one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    http://66.221.121.71/kerberoz/anicake.gif

    best line in the entire series so far... anyone have a version with text or can make one?
    Yes, it was a good line. But it's already played out cause everyone has said it like 5x & ppl feel the need to keep bringing it back up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Yes, it was a good line. But it's already played out cause everyone has said it like 5x & ppl feel the need to keep bringing it back up
    That'll never be played out. It's too awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    That'll never be played out. It's too awesome.
    Cake was played out before this scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunrider View Post
    That'll never be played out. It's too awesome.
    Nope, a few ppl me mentioned it the day it aired and the day after... Now it's just bandwagon ppl who keep bringing it up like its the most awsome scene ever

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