Is it legal to breastfeed in public?

[zoobernut]

It is hypocritical for a woman to be able to do that all of a sudden just because they have to feed their child, but its frowned upon and illeagal to do it at any other time in their life.

This basically just shows me you are not fully reading and comprehending peoples responses before you post your reply. The argument is that it is not hypocritical that women are all of a sudden allowed to behave this way because they are feeding a child because CONTEXT in our society has a lot of importance on what you can or cannot do.

Edit: Just noticed this was a page late. Also urine even if it is 100% sterile still breaks down to ammonia and other dangerous chemicals when it is exposed to the air.

[Fhqwghads]

It *should* be sterile and it isn't always. You want to make that assumption? I don't.

as for the second bit- heh. See, it's pretty fucking annoying when someone makes assumptions about your motivations and reasonings for doing something when they don't actually know. But hey, if you can assume that because some woman beastfed in public she did so because she's a self absorbed attention whoring trouble maker, then I can assume your revulsion of that act is due to the fact that you've got some pretty deep-seeded mommy issues and you can't stand to view women as nurturing beings because it brings forth all kinds of jealousy because your mom didn't give a fuck about you.

First part: I said it's always sterile, barring a few rare conditions. There's as much chance of acquiring something from urine as there is from sitting on a public toilet seat. Actually probably less.

Second part: I had a feeling you were going to pull something like this. There's a huge difference between what I've stated in this thread and what the woman was doing. Namely, I made clear what my reasons were. If you didn't bother to read them, and instead want to imagine your own reasons for my position on the subject, then that's your problem and stupid on your part. And before you start with the "yeah that's what you're doing for the woman in the OP", there IS NO EXCUSE for hiking a shirt up and having both tits out to feed a kid in the middle of a goddamned mall. NONE. There are countless means to avoid that whole mess, and instead she opted to dive right in, heedless of how other people around her would react. As I said, the law is on her side, she took advantage of it, whether consciously or not. Yes it's legal, but it also shows a massive lack of common sense & common courtesy.

[Day]

This basically just shows me you are not fully reading and comprehending peoples responses before you post your reply. The argument is that it is not hypocritical that women are all of a sudden allowed to behave this way because they are feeding a child because CONTEXT in our society has a lot of importance on what you can or cannot do.

Edit: Just noticed this was a page late. Also urine even if it is 100% sterile still breaks down to ammonia and other dangerous chemicals when it is exposed to the air.

You think I don't understand that women are allowed to behave this way because it's deemed socially acceptable because they are feeding their child? Thanks for stating the obvious, I was really confused on that part.

[Fhqwghads]

Well your unwavering disgust of seeing women in anything but the modest or demure appearance in public leads us to believe that woman can only be seen as either unsexual (the public), or blatently sexual (private) objects. Apparetnly, you seem to believe that a woman showing a breast in public, even to facilitate a basic biological function, is repugnant because breasts are inherently sexual objects and displaying them in public is a taboo, violating your social mores of modesty in public spaces.

That's where this is coming from.

Or you could be making up the whole thing and not realizing that I'm playing devil's advocate on the part of people who DO find this type of behavior offensive. Personally, and I will re-iterate for the Nth time, I find it hypocritical. I am not interested in the function behind the exposure, rather I am irritated that society will cater to women who have children and are willing to accept nudity in one situation, but god fucking forbid that someone wants to be nude outside of this singular event. Hopefully this will clear things up, since apparently there are plenty of people with short goddamn memories (or they just want to throw their two cents in without bothering to read the previous replies to the thread) since I said I have no problem with nudity at least one, and probably more, times.

I AM A NUDIST, PEOPLE. I do NOT have a problem with nudity. I cannot be any clearer, so drop that whole line of associating me with being disgusted by naked people. My argument is at best only related to nudity in that a nursing woman can apparently expose her tits to any degree she desires, which is a hypocritical law. It also shows how fucking retarded society is, when one situation it's OK to be (partially) nude, and any other time you get arrested. Seriously, this is one fucked up society.

[Nystul]

I AM A NUDIST, PEOPLE. I do NOT have a problem with nudity. I cannot be any clearer, so drop that whole line of associating me with being disgusted by naked people. My argument is at best only related to nudity in that a nursing woman can apparently expose her tits to any degree she desires, which is a hypocritical law. It also shows how fucking retarded society is, when one situation it's OK to be (partially) nude, and any other time you get arrested. Seriously, this is one fucked up society.

If that were true at all, then you'd be applauding this woman and using that as precedent for acceptable nudity in our society. But instead you're just a whiny bitch who is mad that someone can swing her tits but you can't wave around your pecker.

[Fhqwghads]

If that were true at all, then you'd be applauding this woman and using that as precedent for acceptable nudity in our society. But instead you're just a whiny bitch who is mad that someone can swing her tits but you can't wave around your pecker.

We've already touched on equal rights there, genius. Seems that unequality isn't very popular. Perhaps you need to go back and fucking read up on history about how people aren't really keen on the whole concept.

[Elesirdur]

If that were true at all, then you'd be applauding this woman and using that as precedent for acceptable nudity in our society. But instead you're just a whiny bitch who is mad that someone can swing her tits but you can't wave around your pecker.

Seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

[Dantrag]

If that were true at all, then you'd be applauding this woman and using that as precedent for acceptable nudity in our society. But instead you're just a whiny bitch who is mad that someone can swing her tits but you can't wave around your pecker.

If it was just swinging tits it be a different issue... i would think.

[Nystul]

We've already touched on equal rights there, genius. Seems that unequality isn't very popular. Perhaps you need to go back and fucking read up on history about how people aren't really keen on the whole concept.

So let me get this straight-

You're all in favor of nudity. And because of that, you're opposed to a woman breastfeeding in public?

[Fhqwghads]

So let me get this straight-

You're all in favor of nudity. And because of that, you're opposed to a woman breastfeeding in public?

Jesus tap-dancing christ you're retarded.

[Andri]

Personally, and I will re-iterate for the Nth time, I find it hypocritical.

I really have tried to read the other pages, but this thread moves a bit fast for me while I am trying to get work done.... but what exactly did you see? Because there are people on this thread saying "a woman shouldn't be able to wave her tits around" and they are referring to breastfeeding.

If done correctly, you cannot see anything but you do understand the person is partially exposed only to her child because the baby should be covering almost everything. Most women use various shirts, shawls, blankets to help this. Breastfeeding done correctly is in no way "waving ones tits around."

If indeed this woman was sitting in the mall with her top completely off, a baby on one breast and playing twirlies or w/e her exposed other nipple then, no, she would not be within the spirit of the law and more on the 'public indecency' side of it.

Somehow i doubt that was the case though.

[Elesirdur]

Andri, the full-on tits-out display was what prompted this entire discussion. (ie. woman rolled her tank top down to her waist and the baby was drinking from both jugs)

[Beckwin]

it's not like women carry around babies so they can be topless in public. that's ridiculous. they need to feed their baby, so they do it in a way that's comfortable to them. when the baby is done feeding, the titties go back under cover. a child isn't a cover for exhibitionism or the joy of nudity.

[Nystul]

no see, this is the hilarity of your whole argument. You're issue is the hypocrisy of it. But the problem is you swung the wrong way.

If you believe in something, then you balance the hypocrisy in favor of what you support. If you really were just concerned with the "unfairness" of the issue you'd be talking about how yes, they should be able to do that and as a matter of fact on whole our views towards nudity are harsh and unrealistic.

But you're arguing against it. Now, on THIS page you say you're just playing devil's advocate for those that are offended. I'm going to make the argument, though, that the real issue is your aversion to kids and all things kid related.

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My feelings on the subject don't revolve around nudity. What I am disgusted about is the way society caters to pregnant women or women with babies.

It amazes me how much society coddles women with babies, and allows them to get away things that no man would ever get away with.

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To add insult to injury, they not only get away with it in some circumstances, but are encouraged and viewed endearingly with lots of "ooohs" and "aahhs." I don't think I could roll my eyes any harder when I see this annoying crap.

Page 8- this I'm just throwing in for fun- the OP said "in public with both of her tits hanging out" which could arguably be taken in a number of different ways and to me had a certain ring of hyperbole. But all of a sudden she's got her shirt over her head? By page 20 you'll be saying she was squirting milk into the baby's mouth from 10 feet away.

I'm pretty sure women don't need to pull their shirt up over their head and have their tits completely exposed to breastfeed their child.

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It's about the hypocrisy of the law with regard to nudity/partial nudity, and how certain women like the one in the OP will capitalize on it.

Page 8 Oh my, an admission of contextual difference. Question is how often does one vs the other occur?

Aksannyi, I am not talking about women who are modest about breastfeeding. They aren't the ones most people take issue with. It's the ones who feel it's perfectly OK to walk around virtually topless with their kid sucking away, making everyone around them feel uncomfortable, that I have a problem with.

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Parents expect everyone to oooh and ahh over their stupid spawn from hell like they're some kind of angel.

You know, I'm going to stop there. Aside from the few that were topically unrelated but I thought were hilarious examples of your desire to paint a woman from this statement:
"in public with both of her tits hanging out"
which game from a poster who so eloquently said "he seen her" in such a state, all of a sudden in your posts she's some chick with her shirt over her head and her skirt hiked up and she's giggling her tits in people's faces and playing a fucking kazoo with her vagina.

But there is a pretty obvious theme here: you hate babies and that extends to all things baby related. Of course, this is your own personal issue that can be chalked up to either immaturity or some silly sense of rebellion or god knows what. Don't care to be honest. But your argument here has nothing to do with some sort of devils advocating of those that were offended. No one is going to believe you're so benevolent as to stand up for all those poor average people so offended and disturbed by a breastfeeding woman because they just can't find the courage themselves.

It's spite. You just fucking hate seeing a baby or anything associated with it getting any kind of attention. Your argument would make sense if you were actually against nudity in any form but this is obvious spite. Fuck babies and the women with them. How dare they enjoy their time together. Do not display the child, do not show pride and joy for your child, nothing. Unseen, unheard. Don't try to pretend you're just trying to point out the hypocrisy of our society and how omg it's wrong here but ok there, omg how unfair! It should be obvious by now no one is going to take you seriously on that issue.

[Day]

I'm pretty sure that's well understood.

I think what it comes down to is that some of us feel that the need to feed your child shouldn't give you the right to expose yourself in public. Others feel that it should give you the right.

Edit: this was directed at beckwin not that big ass post above me.

[Nystul]

FYI most indecency laws require evidence that the person was trying to shock or offend.

[Dantrag]

It just seems to me most the people arguing against it have NO idea what dealing with or being around a baby is like. Obviously the women here who have had babies know more of what it's like more than any of us though . There are too many variables to sum them up to should be able to and shouldn't be able to.

[Azalee]

This thread is now just people battling over the same shit back and forth... And no one is willing to change their views.

[Beckwin]

what's funny is that men are allowed to be topless in many places. titties aren't the gender equivalent of a penis, guys.

[Rhinox]

Thread is gay. Agree to disagree and move on.