Corsair Endgame Gear Questions

[Callisto]

Bolded the parts the other guy doesn't seem to get through his head.

Not everyone merits on fucking Colibris

It's not that different. The difference is that I drop 1600 Slugs instead of 2.2k, and I don't lose a Sushi every time I WS.

COR/Mage is a fantastic support for large events, but in merits it's somewhat dead weight to me, unless your 3 melees are already so decked that they're on the verge of killing faster than repops can support, which is possible in some cases, but then you're basically there for COR Roll and nothing else. To me personally, if I was just going to play the role of the stationary BRD in a 2 BRD party and be bored out of my mind I'd just come BRD.

I will say that Tan was right about overdoing the RAcc on WS to an extent, Slug is Slug, sometimes it's going to miss, but you should be eating sushi anyways, and packing some punch into your WS gear. There's still no reason a decently-equipped COR shouldn't be breaking 1k Slug on Mamools, even as /mage.

[Kylen]

I think so far I like Loren's gearsets the most, but I'm curious why full Denali in TP set over a mix/match haste setup including W. Turban and Dusk Hands/Feet (or even B.Zerehs or some Enkidu Leggings if you have access) ?

The accuracy bonus from full Denali is just +10, right? If so, full Denali is clearly inferior to most of other melee TP setups listed here in terms of both haste and accuracy.

Edit: OtherWiki says it's +20 actually, has this been confirmed? If so, full Denali isn't too bad for more of a +accuracy oriented setup with +28 acc., 4% Haste, and 18 Attack. Not a bad overall mix, but you can still achieve more +acc. or +Haste in more specialized hybrid builds, though.

[Kerberoz]

I'd much rather do COR BRD BRD RDM DD DD than have 3 DDs and only 1 BRD. There's absolutely no way you're going to squeak by curing in that setup.

[Callisto]

See that would be nice, however in that setup unless you have 2 relics, the COR being poorly equipped for DD is dead weight, that's what my issue is. COR/Mage has it's places and it's extremely effective in those places, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be prepared to be a competent DD when needed. It'd be like a RDM who brought gear for main healing but owned no nuking gear, sure they aren't a top-tier nuker, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be prepared for it.

[Loren]

I think so far I like Loren's gearsets the most, but I'm curious why full Denali in TP set over a mix/match haste setup including W. Turban and Dusk Hands/Feet (or even B.Zerehs or some Enkidu Leggings if you have access) ?

Denali bonus is Acc+20, there are two people in my Nyzul group who've tested it with the /check system.

I wouldn't claim it's the ultimate TP set, but it works and the price is right. I don't own any Dusk/Barbarossa/Enkidu stuff atm.

And as cheeky as it sounds, the STR+7 and Atk+18 do have an effect on your sword DoT.

[Max™]

What's a stationary bard?

Cor's don't help stage mobs even with a Bard puller?



Sorta kidding, though Kayn should go back to loldrking it up!

[Callisto]

What's a stationary bard?

Cor's don't help stage mobs even with a Bard puller?



Sorta kidding, though Kayn should go back to loldrking it up!

If there's an errant missed Lullaby or link I'll toss a LS on it, but I generally try to save at least one QD charge, it's insurance for when Slug leaves a mob with a sliver of HP left and I want to finish it before I lose a Sushi or take a Flurry/Drub to the face.

[kayn]

I've actually gotten to merit on drk recently.
It's quite fun but i end up tanking the whole time ; ; (drk is teh mp spunge)
after i get my nin to 75 i'll be meriting on cor to break the latent of my gun of trials lol

[Xrave]

COR/Mage is a fantastic support for large events, but in merits it's somewhat dead weight to me, unless your 3 melees are already so decked that they're on the verge of killing faster than repops can support, which is possible in some cases, but then you're basically there for COR Roll and nothing else.

That's basically what happens with my COR. My damage is meaningless in the LS parties I have so I sub /WHM and help with cures. I actually like it since I can basically do something else and just hit 3 macros.

To me personally, if I was just going to play the role of the stationary BRD in a 2 BRD party and be bored out of my mind I'd just come BRD.

But BRD can't do Corsair's Roll!

[Kyreth]

I've found any merit party worth it's salt i'm better off /whm i use a light staff, a gun and a bullet for light & drk shots mp gear where i can. i've found that assisting w/ heals will do more for the pt than me wasting ammo on 400 dmg slugwiffs just my 2 cents

Seriously, WTF. I pull significantly better Slug damage at 70 COR/RNG than that, and that's with not even having Detonator handy and modest (AF + the usual bits and pieces like Gun Belt, Shark Gun + steel for WS) equipment...and that's gunning for damage vs. meleeing.

[Bakthi]

I see a lot of people liking Detonator. I don't have it, nor do I have a gorget for it, although it's sounding like something I'm going to have to check out. I don't actually merit much on COR (don't merit much at all since most of what I really want is done), but I'm always looking to improve. I have breeze, soil, and snow gorgets now; trying to figure out whether I'd want to go for light or flame given my current jobs. I don't really plan to level anything else to 75 (except WAR, which is 73), but I might end up soloing DRG or BLU.

For reference, here are my current gear sets:

Melee (TP)

Joyeuse
Turban / Specs / Suppa / Brutal
Pahluwan / Dusk / Blood / Rajas (might change the 2nd to Jaeger)
AM+1 / Swift / Skadi / Dusk

WS (Slug)

Martial/Steel
Ohat / Breeze / Suppa / Beater's
Shikaree / Skadi / Behemoth / Jalzahn's
AM+1 / Gun / Skadi / Skadi

QD

AF/ blah / Suppa / Moldavite
Cotehardie / Skadi / Emerald / Emerald
blah / Scouter's / War / AF

I use squid sushi, and even with the decreasing amounts of r.acc (CFG basically gather dust now), I'm reasonably happy with my Slug and melee accuracy...on /RNG. The one time I went /WAR at MJSP I was less than pleased on both counts. There's stuff I could buy, but I'm 3/3 on Skadi body and so saving up for that. I also do Nyzul 2x a week, so the Denali will happen eventually. Not too sure about trying to activate Uggy with 8 MP merits. I do Einherjar 3 times per 2 weeks, so the belt will happen too.

Things I'm contemplating:

Detonator, as above. I didn't bother initially, but it sounds nice.
Omega Ring or AGI ring for Quick Draw? I have Insect Ring too. If we assume 2 AGI = 1 m.acc, then Omega should be better and Insect the same as 4 AGI.
Rajas instead of Behemoth for WS. Might make me cry.
Pahluwan legs (I have them) vs Skadi legs for WS.
Does anyone get non-shitty Ice Shot damage on Proto-Ultima? I do a lot better on Ouryu.

Oh, and I don't have any gun or sword merits. I guess that would give me both a reason to merit and a place to use them. I've been thinking about g.axe for when WAR hits 75, but the chances of me raiding/meriting on that are pretty slim.

[Callisto]

Detonator, as above. I didn't bother initially, but it sounds nice.

Detonator really is worth it, especially with Martial Gun. If nothing else on things that you have low RAtk relative to their Defense, it makes up a huge amount of ground on Slug with much better accuracy. Nice for the times when you find yourself with Berserk/Chaos down for another 30 seconds, and for larger endgame mobs. When fully buffed with an assload of RAtk Slug distances itself alot further, though. Just bring someone who can open Fragmentation and get a bunch of Bronze Bullets.

Omega Ring or AGI ring for Quick Draw? I have Insect Ring too. If we assume 2 AGI = 1 m.acc, then Omega should be better and Insect the same as 4 AGI.

I personally use Garrulous + Balrahn's for QD, it's not noticeably different than when I used Garrulous + Emerald, but it saves an inventory spot between my jobs since nothing else would use an AGI ring.

Rajas instead of Behemoth for WS. Might make me cry.

I'd keep the Behemoth until you have MM merits, then swap in Rajas(for Slug); for Detonator go w/ Rajas.

Pahluwan legs (I have them) vs Skadi legs for WS.

I don't know the stats for Skadi off the top of my head, but I remember them being better.

Does anyone get non-shitty Ice Shot damage on Proto-Ultima? I do a lot better on Ouryu.

I use Vulcan's for Ultima, Fire Shot does very well.

Oh, and I don't have any gun or sword merits. I guess that would give me both a reason to merit and a place to use them. I've been thinking about g.axe for when WAR hits 75, but the chances of me raiding/meriting on that are pretty slim.

Definitely dependant on your other jobs, but Sword merits are definitely worth it and MM if you really don't have something you want more on another job.

[Kylen]

Pahluwan legs (I have them) vs Skadi legs for WS.

If you're not weaponskilling with a Rajas Ring or any other Store TP gear, the only difference between Pahluwan Legs and Skadi is 3 STR vs. 5 R.atk for Slug Shot/Det.. Weaponskilling in Skadi will put you at 17.9% TP instead of 16.8%, but that's not enough to save you a Joyeuse swing getting to 100% TP. If you use Rajas Ring, though, weaponskilling in Skadi will give you 18.8% TP and allow a 12-hit build vs. a 13-hit without, assuming you have 1 more Store TP from something like Brutal Earring or Ecphoria Ring.

[nitsuj]

Syntax:: Current Gear (Working Towards). Working on my HNM build, this is mostly for merit and Nyzul and other party situations

-Melee (Obviously Migrating to a haste build)-
Ohat (Turban)/ Spectacles (Peacock Charm) / Suppanomimi / Fenrir's (Brutal)
Pahluwan Khazagand / War Gloves (Dusk) / Rajas ring / Ecphoria Ring
Amemet+1 / Life Belt (Swift belt) / Dusk Trousers / Denali gamashes (Dusk)

-Ranged-
OHat / Spectacles (Faith Torque) / Vision Earring / Beater's Earring
Pahluwan Khazagand / Blood Finger Gauntlet / Behemoth (+1) / Behemoth(+1)
Amemet+1 / Buccaneer belt / Dusk Trousers / Denali gamashes

-Weaponskill-
Ohat / Spectacles (Faith Torque) / Vision Earring / Fenrir's (Triumph)
Shikaree Aketon (Denali)/ Blood Finger Gauntlet / Rajas / Behemoth
Amemet+1 / Buccaneer belt / Dusk Trousers / Denali gamashes

I'm still working on my Quick Draw build now, more seriously once I get my Denali Kecks. I'm trying to make a good /whm /rdm build that can carry gear only for MP++ and QD, so I have Blood Cuisses, Crimson Feet, Lamia Mantle+1 so far, and some other random pieces, but the Magic Acc stuff is going to take me some time to aquire...

For Ranged mode I swap in Fire Staff (Vulcan) and Axe Grip and don't worry about haste, just Ranged Acc/Atk and STR. Normal stuff.

Weapon wise I use Joyeuse/Coffinmaker/Steel Bullet. If I dual wield anything it's Phantom Fleuret but mostly just for fun, as I don't want to slow down my TP in serious situations. Going to get a Corsair's Scimitar soon, too, and I'll have to test the damage increase from Dual Wielding vs the TP loss but I'm not holding my breath. Also going to switch to Martial Gun as soon as I finish my gun of trials.

[nekura]

Use Blue Cotehardie over Shikaree Aketon on weaponskills until you have Denali, also, at least for Detonator I think Light Gorget would be the better neck piece.

[Velecic]

I don't see it anywhere in this thread so forgive me if it's been said already, but COR/DNC is FANTASTIC in merit PTs. Our resident LS cor subs dnc for all our merit PTs (both mamools & birds etc), and in general (not even counting drain samba 2) he heals for more than the mages do. Joyeuse + Full Denali + Sushi lets him get plenty of TP for melee to mp sponge with. We typically go with COR/DNC BRD/NIN WHM or RDM DD DD DD (usually a pld/nin - hey they need their buffers & merits too! - or a SAM as main tank + 2 other DDs). Just thought I'd bring it up since I don't see it in this thread yet. /DNC is a very very good sub for COR in merit PTs. I have subbed RNG all the way to where I am (currently 67 cor atm) and intend to switch to /DNC most of the time once I hit 70 and get Joytoy + all the good /DNC stuff from 35. Hope this helps ^^

Secondarily, if someone hasn't mentioned this before, for Quickdraw to gain the +8 Magic Attack Bonus from Uggalipeh (sp?) Pendant, you must have MP from another gear slot besides the pendant (Crimson Hands or MP Merits work, as long as you are < 50% of course), friend tested this out right after buying pendant for his COR, he didn't have merits and took a bit to figure out why he wasn't getting the damage boost, putting Whands on solved the problem. Not the best with forum posts, so forgive me if any of this is confusing or misworded =)

[nitsuj]

Use Blue Cotehardie over Shikaree Aketon on weaponskills until you have Denali, also, at least for Detonator I think Light Gorget would be the better neck piece.

I have the Cotehardle, but I don't like talking about it, much less wearing that ridiculous looking thing

[nekura]

I have the Cotehardle, but I don't like talking about it, much less wearing that ridiculous looking thing

If you're just wearing it for weaponskills (and Quick Draws too, probably) you'll be in and out if pretty quick, but since it's also your MP piece I'll take lots of screenshots of you and post them around next Einherjar.

[kayn]

Denali Jacket?

[nekura]

Denali Jacket?

He doesn't have it yet (I don't either ;; ) but yeah that'd be the optimal piece for WS and Quick Draw.