Soloing sky triggers as blm

[Tsuko_Asura]

Or spend your life savings on Panacea =/

Soloing Diabolos was so freaking expensive.

[drwaffles]

The only NMs BLM can solo in Sky are Despot, Ulli and Genbu. Realistically you're probably going to get Zip stolen from you if you're soloing on BLM, although that depends on your server and the time of day you're in Sky.

[Thorny]

i think he means for erase for mysterious light (gravity) for olla

Yep. If you can solo sky stuff, you can afford a reraise pin >.>

[rog]

Or you could use some degree of intelligence and kite in the tunnel near zone that has about 80' of running space with no mobs instead of expecting a BLM to have the 250 mp to waste nuking 2 detectors every 16 minutes. Single refresh = 20/minute, 16 minutes = 320 mp total and you should be casting 8 bios at 36 mp each(288 mp) in addition to occasional drains when it's safe. Aspir is an additional 100 mp/10 min at best on steam cleaner, it's incredibly unreliable.

except kiting it there means you'll have to run past it. sooner or later that can cause a problem. also, i'm pretty sure those detectors repop every 30 mins. they only repopped once when i killed it the first time, in around 45 mins or so iirc. the second time they repopped twice. however that time i died on the first repop, and it took over an hour.

Olla grande has auto regen

no it doesn't. if it did i'd have never gotten it past 95% at most when i solod it. Even if it was a very low auto-regen. when i fought it, i had dots on grande up maybe 5~10% of the time.

and loves to cast regen, BLM/WHM has jack shit damage mitigation since you don't get time to cast stoneskin and BLM/NIN can't heal themselves worth a shit through barrier or erase mysterious light(which WILL get off and WILL end you). The only way a BLM is soloing olla is if someone clears all pots on the whole fucking floor.

it's entirely possible to avoid mysterious light. i'm not the only one who has done it before. as for healing, you can always use potions. and don't believe i've seen it use regen, but most of the time i was too far away to see what it was doing, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that.

either way, i'll agree olla is completely unrealistic for a blm to solo. but it's not impossible.

[Callisto]

except kiting it there means you'll have to run past it. sooner or later that can cause a problem. also, i'm pretty sure those detectors repop every 30 mins. they only repopped once when i killed it the first time, in around 45 mins or so iirc. the second time they repopped twice. however that time i died on the first repop, and it took over an hour

Not sure how you do SC, but I kite on the stairs and you're never in danger of aggroing a Detector unless you run way past the bottom of the stairs...the stairs provide lots of kiting room, once in a blue moon a Detector will pop close to the bottom of the stairs but you can always T3 it real quick then get back to SC.

[rog]

Not sure how you do SC, but I kite on the stairs and you're never in danger of aggroing a Detector unless you run way past the bottom of the stairs...the stairs provide lots of kiting room, once in a blue moon a Detector will pop close to the bottom of the stairs but you can always T3 it real quick then get back to SC.

i meant you'd have to run past SC itself.

i kite it around in a circle where it pops.

[eva00r]

I'm asking the same question with SCH/RDM.

Despot
Zipacna
Faust
Mother Globe
Steam Cleaner
Brigandish Blade
Olla Pots / Ro'maeve water
Diorite / Ullikummi

Any possible with SCH/RDM ? (My SCH is hitting 75 and as soon as I hit that I'll try have fun solo these things)

[Callisto]

Check out Kaeko's LJ for SCH soloing stuff. As far as sky, same shit you can do on BLM you can probably do on SCH, and you get the nice Ghetto Gaiters to boot. Despot/SC/Ulli/Waters. I still don't like the idea of soloing waters as a normal mage, Spectral Barrier is just too risky to me and their huge magic reduction sucks. Even if you found a way to solo BB to 1%(holding him at zone and Ix'drging him would work probably) there's still the whole stealing/equipping the knife to finish him issue. Zip, Faust, and MG will all eat your face.

[Thorny]

except kiting it there means you'll have to run past it. sooner or later that can cause a problem. also, i'm pretty sure those detectors repop every 30 mins. they only repopped once when i killed it the first time, in around 45 mins or so iirc. the second time they repopped twice. however that time i died on the first repop, and it took over an hour.

Except kiting it downstairs makes you unclaim it every time you nuke an add, and any half-decent RDM can eat 3-4 -ga 3s per convert cycle safely.. and no matter how bad your luck is you shouldn't be getting hit nearly that much if you have any degree of compency.

no it doesn't. if it did i'd have never gotten it past 95% at most when i solod it. Even if it was a very low auto-regen. when i fought it, i had dots on grande up maybe 5~10% of the time.

Yes, it does. It has the basic 1/click WHM job trait regen, which won't ever outparse bio but is still significant.

it's entirely possible to avoid mysterious light. i'm not the only one who has done it before. as for healing, you can always use potions. and don't believe i've seen it use regen, but most of the time i was too far away to see what it was doing, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that.

It's reliant on lag processing your movement at the right time, as the move is near-instant. Good luck not getting the smallest lag spikes ever and always being the proper distance away.

either way, i'll agree olla is completely unrealistic for a blm to solo. but it's not impossible

Yes, it is.

Again, none of your RDM solo means anything when we're talking about BLM. None of these are even difficult solos on RDM, and if you need to kite steam cleaner downstairs you're probably pretty horrible anyway.

Edit to stay on topic: SCH can solo despot and ullikummi rather easily, and Steam Cleaner with a bit more effort. The rest aren't very feasible, due to SCHs need to choose between /rdm for gravity/bind and /nin for utsu.

[solsovly]

Roughly how long would it take to Bio/Poison II Ulli to death on BLM?

[Callisto]

Using just those 2, like 40~ minutes. Should be able to speed things up greatly by slapping a Bind + Nuke on it every now and then.

[Redness]

BLM solo Ulli you'll be relying heavily on drain and aspir. He's definitely easy, I used to duo him w/ another BLM a lot for the gilz. Just kite around the tele, keep DoTs up, drain and aspir when he stops to cast. His knockback melee spam makes him even easier because if he does hit you, he'll knock you out of his range. Absorbed by one shadow though, so we both subbed nin for him to make it {Too weak.}

Stun Banishga, or don't lol.

[solsovly]

Thanks. I've really only soloed XP level mobs on BLM (statues, toau junk). Are elemental debuffs generally considered pretty worthless due to their resist/duration and higher mp to dmg costs?

[Callisto]

Not if you're trying to cut down time, they don't resist that badly on things like Ulli assuming you have decent gear, the damage is reasonable, it's just duration that sucks. Stopping to recast them constantly is what kills their value more than anything else. If you're trying to be safe they help, but Ulli really is easy enough to just slap some Tier 3's on and cut time down that way.

Edit: That's coming from a RDM perspective, when doing DoT things as /BLM like Ix'Aerns.

[Redness]

Yeah, elemental debuffs are great if you have a good skill build and can land them, usful in a duo where one person has time to stop and cast as the other kites, however solo you're really going to be just circling that damned teleporter about 349807498 times while waiting for Bio and poison to do its job. You don't get a lot of time to cast except when he casts, and that's usually the time to reapply bio and poison, or if you can get off a II or III nuke.

[Kaeko]

Trick to Ulli is that it can deaggro. Once it deaggros, you can freely get off a nice Tier IV nuke. Makes this fight relatively quick - don't just rely on your DoTs for this or you'll be there awhile.

Only problem with this is that you can get it stolen easily - really shitty back before Ulli was made into a trigger pop. I imagine most players would be much less likely to steal it from you nowadays since it's so trivial to get.