25 pieces off Chariot Bosses

[Zubuis]

Our linkshell has been doing salvage for a while now. I was wondering for other groups that do salvage alot, do you guys notice that you get certain types of 25's more than others? Like for instance on LBC for example, 25 Morrigan body seems like it never drops for us. Morrigan on average seems least common drop on all chariot bosses for us while it seems like we get a ton of ares and skadi 25 pieces.

I would say that it seems like:

Morrigan (most rare) > Usukane > Marduk > Skadi = Ares (from rare to most common)

I was just wondering if other groups experience this or if our group is just unique. You would think that the pieces would have the same % chance of dropping but to me it doesnt seem like it.

Any comments?

[Diomer]

Well I'm currently 0/8 on Bodb's Cuffs with the other 2 pieces on Ghanraam for ~2 months now so
We see a ton of skadi + ares junk too though.

[Cream Soda]

2/15 on usu shoes on LAC with frequent double skadi

[Hoshiku]

I think it's completely random. Here are the stats from my shell's boss runs:

Chariots
Long-Armed Chariot - 15
Skadi Mask - 6
Skadi Body - 3
Ares Hands - 6
Morg Hands - 3
Usukane Feet - 5
Marduk Legs - 5
Long Bowed Chariot - 16
Skadi Feet - 8
Morg Head - 5
Ares Mask - 5
Ares Body - 6
Morg Body - 5
Usukane Legs - 6
Battleclad Chariot - 3
Morg Legs - 2
Usukane Body - 1
Usukane Head - 2
Marduk Feet - 1
Armored Chariot - 2
Marduk Body - 2
Skadi Legs - 1
Usukane Hands - 1

It always feels like when we're after morrigan gear we get nothing but skadi and usukane and when we're after skadi we get nothing but marduk and ares. I'd just like freyr's trousers to drop so i can finish my damn skadi legs QQ

[shihei]

Every shell gets different streaks on drops. The only given is that the peice you need to complete somthing will NOT drop.

[dendryte]

Confirmation bias, etc.

[Aihree]

Friend of mine had the crazy theory that yes, there is bias, and we're setting it ourselves by selecting the set that the NPC stores.

That friend has since stored all his marduk pieces because he wants usu.

[SamanosukeShiva]

depend on luck imo, but yeah my group morri 25 drop the least, skadi and marduk being the highest drop 25

[Xerlic]

It took me about 6 months to get Usukane 25 Feet, but I would pass to Eastern Job mains who had the 35. It took 2 other guys in my linkshell about 3 months of having the 35 to get the 25.

However, our night group has a few people needing 25 Morri Body while they've been freelotting in my afternoon group for a while.

I pretty much agree with Shihei's explanation.

[Judai]

Random drops are random, unless you need it, then it never drops.

[Not Kuno]

Skadi always drops. Always.

[Hiryo]

Skadi always drops. Always.

This.

And sometimes in doubles! (wish i had a screenshot of double skadi hand drop....)

[Shassira]

I don't have complete records of all our fights, but i have most images from the drops. The results are:


Long-Armed Chariot: 17

Bodb's Cuffs: 4
Ea's Brais: 7
Freyr's Jerkin: 5
Freyr's mask: 6
Phobos's gauntlets: 6
Tsukikazu Sune-ate: 6


Long Bowed Chariot: 25

Bodb's Crown: 5
Bodb's Robe: 8
Ea's Dastanas: 8
Freyr's Ledelsens: 7
Phobos's mask: 6
Phobos's Cuirass: 14
Tsukikazu Haidate: 2


Battleclad Chariot: 16
Bodb's Slops: 6
Ea's Crackows: 4
Freyr's gloves: 4
Phobos's Cuisses: 3
Tsukikazu Jinpachi: 5
Tsukikazu Togi: 10

Armored Chariot: 7

Bodb's Pigaches: 3
Ea's Doublet: 2
Ea's Tiara: 4
Freyr's Trousers: 2
Tsukikazu Gote: 3


As I said, there's a couple fights missing, probably around 3-4 for each boss except Battleclad which i'm sure i got them all.

From our drop rate, although obviously a small set of numbers for any statistical matter, the distribution of items is very fair except for two instances: LBC with Phobo's Cuirass (beint way over the rest, we pretty much expect one every LBC kill) and Tsukikazu Haidate, which has droped only twice for us. You can imagine the queue we have, since the 35 piece drops much more in our case. And finaly, Tsukikazu Togi, which presents a higher drop rate than the other pieces on the same pool.

All i can really say is this is probably just a fair even system for every piece and that we are simply unlucky with some of those pieces. The rule stated above applies: "If you need it, the drop rate is lower"

[shihei]

Skadi never drops. Never.

My thoughts exactly.

[Falisa]

Its always going to be different for every group. Works the same way with omega/ultima. Some groups have a shit ton of a certain piece while another wishes they could get that same piece atleast once.

[SamanosukeShiva]

just got 3x t.sune-ate in 2 days off LAC... and nobody even have sam/mnk/nin/pup lvl'd and others who do already have it, all 3 went to waste lol

[fishstix]

Anyone ever believe in the superstition that drops are based on who first enters salvage? >.> I think most groups use the same person to start it.

[Kaylia]

Anyone ever believe in the superstition that drops are based on who first enters salvage? >.> I think most groups use the same person to start it.

Wouldnt explain the skadi in silversea.


Drop rate is probably something like 30% 20% 15% 15% 10% 10% for different set, thats why we get more of a kind in certain zone

[TB]

http://da.nieltiggemann.de/science/rng/dilbert.png

[drwaffles]

I had my Macha's Cuffs for well over 6 months before Bodb's dropped. Well actually, I d/c'd as we entered a SS run after going 0/10+ on LAC only to actually have them drop that time, then went for months again without seeing them. It was fucking ridiculous.