Spinning Slash / Guillotine

[Robert]

Perhaps peasant, you should have considered the validity of your moral high ground before you felt compelled to challenge my position. As uncouth as it may be, I do derive great pleasure out of figuratively shitting on your chest. You seemingly forget I already took the rug out from under you in my post, your feeble attempt to damage my e-credibility has been duly noted and summarily dismissed.

All I have seen from your limited and repugnant series of asinine posts is whining, complaining and crying foul when somebody shoves their foot up your ass. And when crying and complaining fails, you flail and feign nonchalance, or simply retort with irrefutable statements which are already well known, which still doesn't change the fact that you are below me.

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I was in Knights of Ni killing Vrtra for the first time across the slew of servers while you were most likely Lv9 Sword/Shield WAR in West Ronfaure, how does it feel to know that my Defending Ring is older than your character? Nothing you can say will change the fact that you are ill equipped to hold an argument and even defend your own poorly based convictions. I neither party with /SAM melees, nor would I party with you in the first place. Any idiot (read: you) can win a parse simply by engaging the mob and pressing your WS macro when your TP bar starts flashing. Also, my mistake, I appreciate you pointing out that you were taking +14% damage from wing instead of +13%.

You're an inarticulate idiot. Each one of your posts both butcher the English language and simultaneously fail to make a relevant or even coherent point of ANY sort. Please refrain from posting in my threads. In closing, you seldom even COME to Fafnir much less FIGHT it, tell me, how do you know what Foresterjun uses? Allow me to have Eanae post that slant-eyed devil being interrupted on Ni cast five times, followed by two Cure fives and an ES Sleep II.

TL;dr version: You lose, again.

[Starr]

"who merits with DRKs over WARs or DRGs"

WAIT, WHAT?

[kayn]

how do i rate this funny?

[Tyrath]

You should be fine since Spinning Slash is very accurate.

Since when? Spinning Slash has pretty crappy accuracy.

[Raen Ryong]

100% unmeritted Great Sword, heavyish STR build, and I rarely if ever miss a Spinning Slash when I'm playing around with it in dynamis-xarcabard or ks99 Wyrm the other gear.

Gear was as such;

Balin's(lol)/Pole/---/Bomblet
Chaos+1/Breeze/Ethereal/Brutal
Hauberk/Pallas'/Ruby/Rajas
Forager's/Warwolf/Black/Heca

Dynamis-Xarcabard: 4 total misses over two Dyna-Xarcas
Ks99 Wyrm: 1 miss over ~9 orbs

WS'd every time at 100% in dyna-xarc, first WS was delayed due to SCing in Ks99 Wyrm, others were spammed at 100%.

Anecdotal evidence, yes, but I also find it freakishly accurate.

[yayaok]

read everything, had no interest in commenting since OP's questions were answered in detail but err...
wait, lemme say one thing.
i'll be fucking damned if anyone says algol > naglering. seriously? seriously? i dont know you khrno and i'm not one to judge people, but that's one of the most absurd shit i've ever heard. i assume you're a career DRK? the fuck? its not old school, this is '08 ffxi...

[Phla]

does spinning slash have the same 1hit acc bonus as sam ws ? just wondering

[Nameless]

Yes it does. As a full time GS drk/sam, in bird camp without any song and accuracy buff, I parse 85% melee accuracy but my SS is usually at 95%. For those who think spinning slash has low accuracy is probably biased or haven't really experimented it.

[Nameless]

If I am not mistaken, there was a test showing that all one hit ws have accuracy bonus somewhere in this forum.

[Chupunpupun]

Oh hi Bob, sorry they weren't Black Cuisses, they were Onyx, and I have never died at FF from wings, it is usually from NH's double attacks.

So Khim starts Fulmination at 35%? That's cool, since you lived at the Mire for like 5 months straight, but yea with my little experience of about 20 Khims or so I never saw one going off at 35%, maybe we were lucky, maybe I never noticed, who knows.

So yeah back to the topic of the Cuisses, hmm so what else did you wanted to TP on when I still didn't have Homam, A.Breeches maybe? Or perharps just Crimson legs would have been better? Getting hit for 35-40 more a wing isn't an issue.

Now in regard of the LS, it is a shame we don't have 40+ members at on during all day, we aren't like your LS that hands pearls to everyfucktard in the server to have more bannable bodies ready.

I'm in RTU because I have many friends there since Cato LS, did you ever played since back then? What character had you at that time? Too bad some LS have rules and they don't give you all the items straight away when you join such as full Homam and have to start from the bottom of the list. But what would you know, since your Galka had most items on it ready, isn't that right? So what have you put effort on? Ares and relics, so yea grats on your Homam and d.ring and etc.

About Fjun, I've never seen him tanking on full Ares, times he had other pieces of Ares on are when idling or killing Darters, or can't a PLD kill Darters now in full Ares? Sorry I had no idea of that.

To close, about Ixion, as I said before we haven't had the chance to fight Ixion yet, since after 2 am jp we only have 8-10 members around, because people in my LS have work or school usually, if that isn't a good valid point for you then I wonder what your life is like. So come back again and calls bteam, kteam or w/e when we kill Ixion in 3+ hours with more than 20 people, such as those guys did.

Anyway Bob, if you think I'm so gimp, I'll tell you the same I did to Van, let's parser, your Galka had a Ridill on it when you got it, use it and see because you know nothing to talk shit about me, same as i know nothing about you, but I'll just talk shit back at you anytime.

Sorry to burst your bubble but it took HP 5hour and 3hour to kill the Ixions they got. I doubt your LS that takes 59 min to kill NH with every single person using 2hour at the last min can kill Ixion in less than 3hours.

Oh and just a FYI, Ixion was up and running wild from 12am PST to 2pm PST (probably 1pm to 6am JST) on sunday cause we knew no one would have the balls to kill it and we were right. And Rob, stop owning so much.

[Tan]

Seriously when did Newbie get invaded by "Advanced Players" lets get this thing locked if nobody is going to have anything constructive to say about Spinning or Guillotine the "your ls can't kill xxx in xxx hours" is getting old.

[Thechinaman]

Well not to pick on anyone individually... but Khrno after all the chaos you caused in my Thread, not once did you help me with my original question. Why are you still coming to it? Either help me out with a suggestion or just pass it by. Anyhow, thanks again everyone, suggestions are still open and I am still coming back to read everyone's idea of the Ideal WS gear. You guys have been a great help thus far.

[Lordwafik]

Dear Khrno

Stop shitting up the thread.

Thanks!

[The_Chronik]

Kinda brings me to a question that maybe someone can answer for me. I agree with almost all of the guillotine setups, except that in the 4 or 5 times ive parsed pcc vs snow gorget, I found snow put out a better avg. These were all brd/cor pts and I was drk/sam with chaos fighters, and dual march.
Anyways, ive only done some brief testing of these 2 sets for spinning slash without parsing, havent really gotten around to it, but im not sure which is more effective.

Set 1:
Heca head
Ares Body
Breeze Gorget
Brutal/Triumph
Heca hands
Flame/Rajas
Cerb mantle
Warwolf
Black Cuisses
Heca feet

Set 2:
Ares Mask
Ares Body
Breeze Gorget
Brutal/Mermans
Tarasque +1
Flame/Rajas
Cerb Mantle
Swordbelt+1
Black Cuisses
Rutter Sabatons

As you can see the 2nd set is completely att based, obviously some pieces could be improved on which I dont current possess. Ive always used the first set in merits and HNM, but ive only played around with the 2nd set briefly. Opinions please

[Chupunpupun]

Kinda brings me to a question that maybe someone can answer for me. I agree with almost all of the guillotine setups, except that in the 4 or 5 times ive parsed pcc vs snow gorget, I found snow put out a better avg. These were all brd/cor pts and I was drk/sam with chaos fighters, and dual march.
Anyways, ive only done some brief testing of these 2 sets for spinning slash without parsing, havent really gotten around to it, but im not sure which is more effective.

Set 1:
Heca head
Ares Body
Breeze Gorget
Brutal/Triumph
Heca hands
Flame/Rajas
Cerb mantle
Warwolf
Black Cuisses
Heca feet

Set 2:
Ares Mask
Ares Body
Breeze Gorget
Brutal/Mermans
Tarasque +1
Flame/Rajas
Cerb Mantle
Swordbelt+1
Black Cuisses
Rutter Sabatons

As you can see the 2nd set is completely att based, obviously some pieces could be improved on which I dont current possess. Ive always used the first set in merits and HNM, but ive only played around with the 2nd set briefly. Opinions please

The sea gorget is being discussed here, http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60582.

And contrary to what Khrno said, there have been test done to see if the ACC of sea gorget affects every hit and it's by the JPs. Their conclusion is that it's ~10ACC to all hits. But the decision is ultimately yours to make. I choose to believe it's damage increase on the first hit and ~10ACC to all hits. In the end whatever neck piece you decide to use isn't going to make or break you.

Here's the link to the translated test, if you are interested: http://blog.ddffxi.com/2008/02/accur...-ws.html#links

[The_Chronik]

Sorry, I must have been misleading in my post. In the first paragraph I was adding to the thread that in my own experiences I felt that Snow Gorget proved to be better for me than PCC when using Guillotine. My question was if anyone had done any parse testing on pure attack based Spinning Slashes compared to the normal STR only buffed Spinning Slashes.

[SamanosukeShiva]

i feel bad for the countless ppl we've sold algol to

[Chupunpupun]

i feel bad for the countless ppl we've sold algol to

This guy bought an Algol from us for 5mil like 3-4weeks before the update D:

[SamanosukeShiva]

delicious

[Ruiner]

Someone in my LS bought an Algol for 2.5m three weeks after the update. /sigh