Final Fantasy IV

[Yuri-G]

Entonces es claro que debes aprendar el Espanol, duh.

(I don't want to know how bad that grammar sucked)

[Parshias]

Just got Treasure Hunter... and Teleport doesn't work down here! Now I gotta walk out. At least its just a couple floors up, and not the whole freaking dungeon.

[SephYuyX]

wtf now I remember why I hate old RPGs, got to the moon, and everything one shots me. Im kicking ass at the last boss, then continue the story to the next dungeon, and bam. aisjefoijw

[Yuri-G]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck these flame dogs in the Tower of Bab-il, fuck them hard and fast with a rusty chainsaw. Fuck them having over 3.5k HP so a fast-casted Shiva and one attack from each melee still doesn't take them down, fuck their cheap-ass Scorch bullshit that takes me down in two or three hits, and fuck the fact that they come in groups of three (all the better to rape your party, my dear).

Time to see if Berserk can multi-target without Omnicast... it'll be that or the R button that gets me through this goddamn dungeon.

Edit: It doesn't. Awesome. Time to spam the R button. (And if anyone wonders I'm a little overleveled for this dungeon but you'd have to be massively overleveled to have Rydian and Rosa survive more than one Scorch).

[Yuri-G]

On a totally separate note, was Cecil's HP buffed, or was Kain's nerfed? Or some combination of the two? Because at the same level, Cecil has 2.2k and Kain has 1.2k, which is a lot bigger difference than I remember.

I know for a fact Rosa's HP was nerfed but she always had too much HP for a mage so whatever.

[EternityEnd]

I was wondering the same thing, so I'm starting up my GBA FFIV... Here are their stats in that port:

Cecil 63
HP 4619 MP 258

Rydia 59
HP 2532 MP 549

Kain 63
HP 4410 MP 0

Edge 63
HP 3566 MP 222

Rosa 62
HP 3403 MP 530

From FFIV DS:

Cecil 66
HP 4282 MP 274

Kain 60
HP 2974 MP 77

Rydia 65
HP 2458 MP 657(MP+50%)

Edge 63
HP 3039 MP 212

Rosa 65
HP 3879(HP+50%) MP 387

Looks to me like Rydia and Rosa's MP took a decent nerf, Edge got a small HP nerf, and Kain's HP was devastated. Cecil's HP seems lower in this version.

[Yuri-G]

Hmm, I guess Cecil's just seems higher because Kain's was fucked so hard. Also, are you sure you don't have HP+50% on Rosa? That seems insanely high, her HP in the 30's is almost exactly the same as Rydia so far.

[Turambar]

If the DS version follows the same formulas as the SNES version, your HP growth is strongly related to your Vitality. Cecil's best sword gives a huge +15 to Vitality, so his HP grows quickly once you get it. Kain on the other hand has a lower base Vitality, on top of which his best weapon doesn't boost it at all. However, his Gungnir (the one he has when he rejoins for the last time, in case they changed the name) gives +15 to Vitality, so you can boost his HP by taking a few levels with that equipped.

I haven't played the DS version, but on all the other releases, I actually end up with the opposite situation (i.e. Kain's HP is considerably higher than Cecil's), because I spend a lot of time farming Artemis arrows on the earlier floors of Lunar Subterrane using Gungnir on Kain and Excalibur on Cecil (Excalibur doesn't have a Vitality bonus).

[EternityEnd]

Hmm, I guess Cecil's just seems higher because Kain's was fucked so hard. Also, are you sure you don't have HP+50% on Rosa? That seems insanely high, her HP in the 30's is almost exactly the same as Rydia so far.

Oh, yeah, I do. My bad.

[octopus]

If the DS version follows the same formulas as the SNES version

No it doesn't.

[Kaylia]

Out of curiosity, can you reuse every characters in this version near the end, or they all die?

[EternityEnd]

They come back like before, but you can't use them. As such, the bonus dungeon from the GBA port no longer exists. Pretty lame.

[arus2001]

Kind of sad, either my PC can't handle DS emulation, or emulators can't quite handle this game.

[Toksyuryel]

They still come back to fight against the giant (except for tellah of course) but they no longer rejoin your party. SE felt that this changed the game too much. Instead, they added the augment system to let you keep their abilities.

[octopus]

Kind of sad, either my PC can't handle DS emulation, or emulators can't quite handle this game.

Just get an M3 or R4 ;o They're cheap!

[Ratatapa]

decided to finally go destroy bahamut, and TOO WEAK lol i let him use 1 mega flare for fun but it was too weak. But the summon animation is fucking crazy

[arus2001]

Just get an M3 or R4 ;o They're cheap!

Can you be more specific?

[Lebzile]

Can you be more specific?

http://www.m3adapter.com/

I have the Simply. Was only 30 bucks with it and the memory card and it makes games free for life.

[arus2001]

Well, I don't have a DS to begin with, so doesn't look like that'll help me.

[Abraxas]

140+ kills before the Green Dragon dropped the tail. Thats pretty ridiculous. On the upside, my characters are lvl 82, 13 hours into game two