Version Update Notification (07/23/2008)

[ismarc]

Never really put two and two together... Thank you for opening my eyes. (Punintended.)

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=puns

[Toth]

Honestly, ToAU job af2 coming from Einhejar makes the most sense. Taking this with a grain of salt but hey, with Einhejar being popular and *gasp* fun, I wouldn't mind that idea. But items dropping from the wings would be...unpleasant.

[Zeke]

Do quotes change if they've been edited? Because he didnt say dynamis he said einherjar at least from what i'm reading.

My comment for the Einherjar part was the first part-
and the Dynamis part i brought up was the second.

[Indalecia]

amg...best sig evar

[SamanosukeShiva]

Honestly, ToAU job af2 coming from Einhejar makes the most sense. Taking this with a grain of salt but hey, with Einhejar being popular and *gasp* fun, I wouldn't mind that idea. But items dropping from the wings would be...unpleasant.

and yay, einherjar doesnt take fucking 4 hrs

[Eldelphia]

Here's hoping whatever they do to Dynamis it makes life easier. Instancing + slight cost reduction would win. New relic would be nice to see but I'd prefer it to be in new zones which I doubt we'd see.

I've just started running dynamis for my shell and friends. I did it for far too long with another group before this and whilst I still enjoy the event, some variation in it would be most welcome.

Tis good to see PUP relic, even if we're not sure how and when. And I should have SCH to 75 by then, after all that's a reasonable amount of time to max rank in Campaign...

[Ahlah]

amg...best sig evar

Counldn't agree more X) Can I steal your signature Zeke?

[Zeke]

Counldn't agree more X) Can I steal your signature Zeke?

Ah :D 'cuz we are the same taru!
I will trade it for your Morrigan's Robe? ok
Yeah- you can use I guess... > ,>; kinda weird
to use personal sigs though? Oh well. Its the intrawebs.

[Septimus]

They could also just put rare/ex materials in Dynamis. Don't the crafters for the ToAU AF quests mention that there are better versions of all of the armor? Easy enough for these crafters to say that they are now able to give us these Relic Armors, but we need to find these crazy rare materials that haven't been seen since the Crystal War for the different pieces, but if you can somehow manage to get these materials against all odds, they will gleefully craft the items for you. There you go, you get the items from Dynamis with the horrible drop rates that we have all come to abhore, but you don't have to retcon the story since you don't get the items from Dynamis. (The items were always there, but since we had no use for them we never bothered to notice them.)

Immortal Silk Cloth- An especially luxurious and rare silk of a deep azure color. The rich, blue coloration of this silk is natural, not dyed like normal silk.

Ephramad Tiger Leather- This tiger leather was created with forgotten techniques from the Kingdom of Ephramad. It is fantastically smooth to the touch, yet tough enough to withstand the mightiest of weapon blows.

Irregular Gimp Cloth- This cloth of unknown origin is probably made of of different, leftover threads that were haphazardly thrown together. As a result, it is only suitable for use in Puppetmaster armor.

Make 5 of these items for each armor piece, and everyone is unhappy.

So Square, when can I expect my paycheck?

[Loziel]

Irregular Gimp Cloth- This cloth of unknown origin is probably made of of different, leftover threads that were haphazardly thrown together. As a result, it is only suitable for use in Puppetmaster armor.

So Square, when can I expect my paycheck?

LOL

So much love for the Pup's.

[Keria]

I lol'd so hard at that D: Sorry pupitmastars.

[Jkun]

I lol'd so hard at that D: Sorry pupitmastars.

looool. Well hopefully the AF2 makes us ungimp >O

But really, what if I said my uncle works for SE, and he told me AF2 is quested and requires materials from Tier 4 ZNM, would you believe me?

WHERE'S THE EVIDENCEEEEEE?

[Yggberry]

Didn't they already said more than once that those relic armor will "not" be introduced in normal dynamis?

Next, puppetmaster isn't weak, they are actually very strong already. All we need is some AI twink and activation timer twink and we are good to go.

For example, subbing /sch makes us almost like a black mage with spiritreaver. With dark art, it raises our elemental, dark, and enfeebling magic skills to B+, coupled that with our assorted mage gear, we can do pretty well. Chain 4s are guaranteed on wamoura prince, sleep, drain, aspir, and nuke with puppet and DAD/ADD for infinite mp.

[Izzy]

Didn't they already said more than once that those relic armor will "not" be introduced in normal dynamis?

Next, puppetmaster isn't weak, they are actually very strong already. All we need is some AI twink and activation timer twink and we are good to go.

For example, subbing /sch makes us almost like a black mage with spiritreaver. With dark art, it raises our elemental, dark, and enfeebling magic skills to B+, coupled that with our assorted mage gear, we can do pretty well. Chain 4s are guaranteed on wamoura prince, sleep, drain, aspir, and nuke with puppet and DAD/ADD for infinite mp.

Your selfPUP stroking probley belongs on alla's puppetmaster forum.

[Jkun]

Didn't they already said more than once that those relic armor will "not" be introduced in normal dynamis?

Next, puppetmaster isn't weak, they are actually very strong already. All we need is some AI twink and activation timer twink and we are good to go.

For example, subbing /sch makes us almost like a black mage with spiritreaver. With dark art, it raises our elemental, dark, and enfeebling magic skills to B+, coupled that with our assorted mage gear, we can do pretty well. Chain 4s are guaranteed on wamoura prince, sleep, drain, aspir, and nuke with puppet and DAD/ADD for infinite mp.

They did say that Dynamis isn't part of the picture, but this is SE... They say a lot of things. Unfortunatly, we can only go by these previews until then.

AND JUST CUZ I CAN LULS:

Also it's a fairy great DD too, just people never notice the PUPPET side of the job, and only the master. With capped H2H merits, and Faith, it's almost a B Skill in H2H. Even without Asuran, PUP can still solo light with NO EFFORT.

A decent mixture of enkidu/usukane/cobra (Store TP+20 is nice and it looks sex hot on Mithras ;D ) plus regular DD gear such as Brutal/Rajas, it can do some nice, if not a little small, WSs, and decent enough DoT in the right setup.

Let's not forget Valor and his little PUPridill friend Coiler! :3

/pupmodeoff.

[Kyreth]

Spoiler: show

CoP Dynamis is the Diabolos/Lion dream stuff.

RotZ Dynamis is like, parallely "what if we lost the Crystal War?" stuff relating more to Raogrimm, etc.

I got a little scared when Bastok and Windy totally shit up the past last week and all the NMs in Dyna-Xarc and a good portion of the regular mobs all were about 10-15 levels higher than usual... everyone's accuracy, magic and melee, were just plain shit...

I can just see SE having other dire results from fucking up in Campaign too much....

You sure it just wasn't just epic hose day? We had a Dynamis Beauc a few weeks back that was precisely like that- couldn't land sleeps for anything and kept getting pounded into the ground like n00bs. If it's Campaign related, that'd be the cue for every Dynamis group to be campaigning every day they're not in Dynamis instead.

[Lordwafik]

In regards to dynamis and story etc,

Spoiler: show

roz dynamis isn't "What would have happened if blahblah" , it's someone's dream. Dynamis is diablo's dreams. Galka's dream = Zilartnamis, Lion's dreams = CoPnamis.

That or I can't decipher CoP's stories.

[dejet]

how could they make Einhejar work? there are 5 items per relic right? there are 4 wings(if you count odins too...) 1 drops from each wing? i mean i guess with a total of 3 chambers per wing its 10 total? 1 af drops from 2 chambers? idk it just seems liek it be one hell of a way to make it "fair" anyway i look at relic from Einhejar just seems odd. will you get the hands from odin only like us with our current relic? it just does not add up. i

think we might see just a new system added thats not really ToAU and not WoTG. SE did say they where working on af3 no?(dont quote me on this please i really know im going to kick myself for saything this if im wrong lol) maybe it will start with blu cor pup and slowly added other sets to it. who knows.

again i can be wrong on af3, i think iv read something about it im go look it up latter or if someone else knows? this is going back some time when we 1st asked about relic for pup cor blu

[Valkrish]

it'll be dynamis.

Speculation finished

[Yggberry]

how could they make Einhejar work? there are 5 items per relic right? there are 4 wings(if you count odins too...) 1 drops from each wing? i mean i guess with a total of 3 chambers per wing its 10 total? 1 af drops from 2 chambers? idk it just seems liek it be one hell of a way to make it "fair" anyway i look at relic from Einhejar just seems odd. will you get the hands from odin only like us with our current relic? it just does not add up. i

think we might see just a new system added thats not really ToAU and not WoTG. SE did say they where working on af3 no?(dont quote me on this please i really know im going to kick myself for saything this if im wrong lol) maybe it will start with blu cor pup and slowly added other sets to it. who knows.

again i can be wrong on af3, i think iv read something about it im go look it up latter or if someone else knows? this is going back some time when we 1st asked about relic for pup cor blu

Same as normal AF.

Ichors gets you one item from NPC.

Chest pop gets you the second item.

Trade item to relic NPC to get your relic.

I doubt it will be in dynamis when they specifically said it won't. Normal artifact for these jobs are different too.