NM Windows

[Xanthu]

Besides the three Kings, I've never been clear about NM windows. Do all NMs abide by them? Only some? Actually thinking on it I remember Mysticmaker Profblix being that way as well.

In specific I'm wondering about Roc, King Arthro and Simurgh

[Amele]

you're not likely to get many answers about it - while it's a pretty poorly kept secret (utilizing it involves telling basically your whole shell) it's still considered a trade secret what the particular timings are for good nm's.

I wish you luck in your quest though

[Falisa]

Well each NM works differently, some of them do have windows and others don't. I'm sure alot of them do and we just haven't realized it because no one really cares enough to figure out what exactly the window is. I haven't camped any of those 3 NMs enough to tell you whether or not they actually do have windows or not.

[Callisto]

Unrelated: Why's your name all bright-ass blue all of a sudden?

[Tan]

Besides the three Kings, I've never been clear about NM windows. Do all NMs abide by them? Only some? Actually thinking on it I remember Mysticmaker Profblix being that way as well.

In specific I'm wondering about Roc, King Arthro and Simurgh

I always thought that Simurgh, Roc, Serket and Cassie had no window, and could pop within the 21-24hr mark. Someone I knew claimed that KA has windows but I don't know the truth behind that and just assumed that he didn't. The only real window I know for KA is once that last Knight Crab dies you best get to the waters edge and start spamming your claim macro.

[Xanthu]

You people and your secrets. I guess We'll never know.

I'm guessing the bright blue thing is new moderator/admin markings.

[Falisa]

Unrelated: Why's your name all bright-ass blue all of a sudden?

Because I'm special. 8-)

(Something new Sono put in today I'm guessing for all the mods. :D)

[Amele]

red is admin. dunno if they used a different color for 'just mods'.

I suspect it's a BG thing. (given whose names are bright blue)

edit: I guessed wrong apparently lol

[RKenshin]

I'm pretty sure just about every single mob/NM in the game has a pop window, we just don't know all of them.

It would be too much of a pain in the ass & pretty stupid for any NM to have a chance to pop at every second that passes by for a 3-24 hour period. It's just a (very difficult) matter of figuring out how it works and keeping an open mind.

Like, KA for example, has windows exactly like HNMs only with +5m added on to each for who knows what reason. And I'm betting a lot of other NMs are the similar with their own twist.

I tried to figure one out for Alky a while ago, and started to have his window narrowed down, but completely forgot what it was and didn't care once I got the drop (like 2-3 years ago).

[Thorny]

KA is 21:05 21:35 22:05 etc etc 24:05. I would assume Simurgh and Roc are something similar, as I've seen Simurgh pop in the first few and last few minutes far too often for it to be an even distribution. I haven't kept track of actual times though, so not sure if it's the same +5 minutes.

[Thorny]

Inb4ed by ruke.. bawwwwwww =[

[Drex]

I heard sim and roc were the same deal as KA, but it was some other number besides 5 minutes. Don't remember the number now, but it'd be easy to test if you had ToD, yeah?

[Grey Jorildyn]

I think the real question now is what the windows are for Dark Ixion and Sandworm.

[Halon50]

Mysticmaker had 15m windows on the button, throughout its 90-minute pop period. Was cool to be able to get up and go for drinks, watch TV, etc between pop windows when I camped it for myself and others.

Discussion on the otherwiki seems to agree that Simurgh pops 10 minutes past windows. So maybe look into that when comparing it to KA.

[Avarice]

Roc, Simurgh, and King Arthro have always been referred to (at least where I picked this up) as the three mini-HNMs.

Back on topic, I was always under the influence that Roc/Sim/KA has no windows and could pop at any time between 21-24hrs after their last death. During one of my KA camping adventures I was told he had 30-minute windows, which since I honestly had no clue put to the test and this was easily proven to be false as he popped at a random time, and not within a selected window as I was told.

Unless he has something small like 5- or 10-minute windows, I'm going to go ahead and say that I believe that Roc/Sim/KA do not have windows.

[Thorny]

KA always pops at 21:05 21:35 22:05 22:35 23:05 23:35 or 24:05 after death. If it didn't pop at the time you were told, the person you were talking to thought it was straight 21:00 etc or had a bad ToD.

[drwaffles]

KA absolutely definitely does have 30-minute windows, 5-minutes skewed from typical 24-hour NM windows. Roc, Simurgh and Cassie I've never noticed a pattern, but that's not to say there isn't one; the fact that Cassie can pop up to 15 minutes or so after the 24-hour mark might possibly indicate she has windows set up similar to how KA's windows are organised.

[rath]

KA always pops at 21:05 21:35 22:05 22:35 23:05 23:35 or 24:05 after death. If it didn't pop at the time you were told, the person you were talking to thought it was straight 21:00 etc or had a bad ToD.

This seems to be about what simi was popping at when I camped him. We did not keep exact times, but if he didn't pop in first 5 minutes, he never popped for at least another 30. after that is was always 1>1.5>2>2.5 hour marks. We never had any random pops at say 1.25 hours.

[TacoTaru]

Not to hijack the thread, but I was kinda curious about this, more so with Zilart beastman kings. We were camping today and I had the impression they popped anywhere between 21-24hr, but it popped right at the 22hr mark leaving me to wonder if it has a window. Anyone know what the window might be? (If they're willing to share that is)

[RKenshin]

Beastmen kings have the same exact windows as land HNMs.

30m intervals from the 21 hour mark, up to the 24th hour. HQ chance on second day that increases over time.