Summit Q&A Highlights/Exciting things in the next update

[Max™]

This isn't 2005, they have been trying to keep people happy, not make us all quit immediately.

The upside of something like I mentioned is it would give a lot more incentive to merit in past zones, since they're mainly lacking the exp bonus difference.

Some of the camps would be a fucking load of fun doing an SC/MB setup, and if they did something like that, it really wouldn't HAVE to be Blm's MBing, could be Rdm, Sch, even a Ninja doing it, MB's are MB's after all.

Orcs have too much HP, Quads have a lot of Defense, but if you're setting up an SC/MB to pop their heads off, and getting good base exp + a very large bonus for the SC/MB it would be at least a fun alternative when the "ideal" camps are taken.

[ronin sparthos]

This isn't 2005, they have been trying to keep people happy, not make us all quit immediately.

The upside of something like I mentioned is it would give a lot more incentive to merit in past zones, since they're mainly lacking the exp bonus difference.

Some of the camps would be a fucking load of fun doing an SC/MB setup, and if they did something like that, it really wouldn't HAVE to be Blm's MBing, could be Rdm, Sch, even a Ninja doing it, MB's are MB's after all.

Orcs have too much HP, Quads have a lot of Defense, but if you're setting up an SC/MB to pop their heads off, and getting good base exp + a very large bonus for the SC/MB it would be at least a fun alternative when the "ideal" camps are taken.

This.

I have high hopes for the next update where SE changes the two main things choking this game: low level grindfest and the picky, picky endgame merits scene.

37-50 is dead and for people new to the game or for people trying to level a new job, it is purely hellish to attempt without a PL, statics or campaign grinding. WoTG obviously has the camps to offer, now it is time that SE actually give players some sort of huge incentive to exp there or generally exp on a lower level job or with a smaller party.

Merits have become *very* picky (no BRD, no PT - no WHMs, no DD that arent SAM/DRG/WAR) and the camps are largely overcrowded so an opportunity to fight something which would be more open to jobs that arent considered 'top-tier' burn pt material would be a start in making a generally more open-ended endgame EXP scene. Wanna burnpt? Sure. Wanna SC+MB? Why not. Wanna solo in campaign battles? We have it.

Generally more choices would help to create a more flexible endgame in terms of meriting and in terms of people trying to get to 75.

[Max™]

No Brds, no pt*



Normal meriting is boring, been there, done that, got the t-shirt with the multiple hundred exp chain, make it fast, or make it more fun.

Screwing around watching big shiny SC's and MB's fire off, and actually making good to great exp doing so? That would be a lot more laid back and open opportunities for a lot of less than ideal job setups.

I'm quite interested to see what this "new method of gaining experience for low to mid levels" is too.

[Lordwafik]

37-50 is dead and for people new to the game or for people trying to level a new job, it is purely hellish to attempt without a PL, statics or campaign grinding. WoTG obviously has the camps to offer, now it is time that SE actually give players some sort of huge incentive to exp there or generally exp on a lower level job or with a smaller party.

Don't stop there buddy, more like 25-72 is dead.

Levelling my bard over the last few weeks, took it from dunes all the way up to where it is now at 68, it's a nightmare. Can't find tanks ever, can't find healers ever, most of the time it's a bunch of DDs lfg, or a blu, or just an odd job. Sure occasionally you find a tanker or a healer, I consider them as a "Count your blessings" moment.

Most of the time we've just been trioing as BRD DRG DRG. The sad thing is, due to the lack of healers/tanks, we're PL'ing even at the 65-70 range when we'd rather not, but considering the circumstances, we have no choice. Not very fun pulling the mire on one char and silena spamming a party on the other.

[Max™]

That's why nerobots have to be culled.

Can't find a party? Go /Brd in Campaign!
Why bother seeking when you can semi-afk and just make sure you don't get mpked/keep singing after battles end?

[terranova]

Then you gotta hope the tank/healer doesn't suck. Getting through the 40s on SCH was rouuuuughhh.. I campaigned 44, 46-48, and 50 :/. All while LFP, and it took LONGER when NPCs weren't around to buff. I always thought getting rid of colibri's annoying ass reflect would restore some hope to BLMs.

[Sedres]

http://medias.jeuxonline.info/upload...Summit/WHM.png

[test123]

Notice that the relics has only 3 different types of bonuses, this makes room for one hidden effect.

[miokomioko]

Notice that the relics has only 3 different types of bonuses, this makes room for one hidden effect.

I don't follow.

[Jkun]

Wait, does the COR gun/WS put alittle red laser dot on the mob or is this normal or am I stupid or... ?

lol, I just noticed that. SNIPAN' GAMES.

[layoneil]

I don't follow.

supposedly 1 piece of gear can only hold 5 unique effects, don't know if that was ever disproven (stats count as 1).

[ringthree]

supposedly 1 piece of gear can only hold 5 unique effects, don't know if that was ever disproven (stats count as 1).

This was the interpretation of an off-hand comment made about relic armors, I wouldn't read so much into it.

[dejet]

was it? they asked why relic could not be updated and the answer was "we can only put so much on one item" i think they said 5? or was it 4? also i dont know if it was proven that hiden effect even counts as one of the 4-5 limit. who knows its something se told us just to get us to shut up about how bad some relic is. >.> my fav is i just upgraded my af hands to AF+1(woot) and i still have that +3 chr... god turn the +3 chr into more int ; ;

[Wizrow]

Don't stop there buddy, more like 25-72 is dead.

Levelling my bard over the last few weeks, took it from dunes all the way up to where it is now at 68, it's a nightmare. Can't find tanks ever, can't find healers ever, most of the time it's a bunch of DDs lfg, or a blu, or just an odd job. Sure occasionally you find a tanker or a healer, I consider them as a "Count your blessings" moment.

Most of the time we've just been trioing as BRD DRG DRG. The sad thing is, due to the lack of healers/tanks, we're PL'ing even at the 65-70 range when we'd rather not, but considering the circumstances, we have no choice. Not very fun pulling the mire on one char and silena spamming a party on the other.

If your a bard you can be the ballad bard on merit-party birds at level 50 or so.

RDM can do it to a lesser extent, gotta have a pimp merit party, but once I had haste and refresh my RDM went to 75 in a bunch of colibri merit groups.

[DAKPluto]

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/..._Sollerets.jpg

Call me crazy, but isn't that 8 different things on 1 armor...more than 5?

[arshesney]

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/..._Sollerets.jpg

Call me crazy, but isn't that 8 different things on 1 armor...more than 5?

It is probably 4-5 categories: HP/MP, stats, combat bonuses, haste, elemental resistances, set bonuses, whatnot.

The sollerets have 4 categories on them, Kirin Osode just two for example.

[Kaddisfly]

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/..._Sollerets.jpg

Call me crazy, but isn't that 8 different things on 1 armor...more than 5?

Edit: Bah, Arsh beat me.


No it's not. Stats = 1.

I think it was referring to something like this:

MP Conserve +3
Refresh
MP healing +3
Elemental Magic +10
MAB +4

That would be 5 different things. Stats such as ACC, EVA, etc. = 1 filler.

I wouldn't be surprised if DEF was considered a slot as well.

[Tordall]

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/..._Sollerets.jpg

Call me crazy, but isn't that 8 different things on 1 armor...more than 5?

There are a few 'paired' effects. Acc & Racc, STR & Dex, Acc & Atk, "all melee stats", "all mage stats", "all stats", "all RoZ job traits" etc.

I would have shown the super ribbon though for an example of something with _way_ more than 6 things listed in it's description (I think it's actually got 2 though, "all stats" and "all RoZ job traits").

[ringthree]

was it? they asked why relic could not be updated and the answer was "we can only put so much on one item" i think they said 5? or was it 4? also i dont know if it was proven that hiden effect even counts as one of the 4-5 limit. who knows its something se told us just to get us to shut up about how bad some relic is. >.> my fav is i just upgraded my af hands to AF+1(woot) and i still have that +3 chr... god turn the +3 chr into more int ; ;

The point after "we can only put so much on one item" was all speculation, if I remember correctly. And a reasonable interpretation of what they said could be that they meant "Hey, we can't put everything on one piece of equipment." You really shouldn't take JP > EN translations as word for word truth, there is a whole lot lost in translation especially when they are not being exactly specific. I don't remember them saying anything about a specific number of stat enhancements, but if anyone has the specific quote they should post it so we have something to work with.

[Sakky]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?page...=1&cId=3168323

This was were they said you could only put so much on an item, and stuff like AF are already full.