Summit Q&A Highlights/Exciting things in the next update

[Fhqwghads]

- The development team is considering revealing hidden food effects, but some effects will remain hidden.
- There are no plans to enhance the Square Enix-sanctioned windower.

1) Thank you, SE, for continuing to remind me not to buy into any new MMO you develop.
2) Windowed mode IS NOT MOTHERFUCKING "WINDOWER."

[BRP]

I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as "Can't put more than 5 effects on an item."

I read it as they can't add new effects to items in-game without taking out ones already tied to the item. I say this because that's basically exactly what they were describing their troubles were.

[Corrderio]

This update will be pretty nice. I was hoping with the requirements to obtain a Nyzul weapon they'd add different ways to obtain a Remnats permit though. Like gil, Imperial Standing, Imperial Currency, etc.

[Kornflake]

- It may be possible in the future for players to change their faces and hairstyles.

I wanted this for years.

[ringthree]

I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as "Can't put more than 5 effects on an item."

I read it as they can't add new effects to items in-game without taking out ones already tied to the item. I say this because that's basically exactly what they were describing their troubles were.

Exactly. They aren't saying there is a physical programming limitation, just that they didn't want to add anymore to those items. All of the ideas about there being a programming limitations is just speculation, and for a large part about the specificity of it, fabrication.

[test123]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5...atorlolcf0.png

Something like this dev uses methinks

[ringthree]

Hmm, rereading it, it does sound like there is a limitation of some sort, but I don't think we have a firm grasp on what it may be.

KO: Actually, there are no plans for this. And the reason behind this is that, system-wise, there are a limited number of bonuses or effects that can be put on each piece of armor. And right now, with the artifact armor, that list is filled, which means that if we were going to add an extra bonus for having everything, we have to take one thing away from each one, and because we can't do that, there are no plans right now.

It just seems like a weird explanation, I still wouldn't read any specifics into it in general.

[Corrderio]

Hmm, rereading it, it does sound like there is a limitation of some sort, but I don't think we have a firm grasp on what it may be.

KO: Actually, there are no plans for this. And the reason behind this is that, system-wise, there are a limited number of bonuses or effects that can be put on each piece of armor. And right now, with the artifact armor, that list is filled, which means that if we were going to add an extra bonus for having everything, we have to take one thing away from each one, and because we can't do that, there are no plans right now.

It just seems like a weird explanation, I still wouldn't read any specifics into it in general.

Yeah, that does sound pretty odd. I wish SE went into more detail.

[Hanyoko]

After hearing the 4 limit I figured things were broken down into parameters in a function. Possibly they are grouped together in a fasion as to how they are processed

IE stats are a base item therefore processed as one group
HP% / MP% / accuracy/attack are processed after stats so they are another group
Traits and abilities and funky things after that.

Then they just decide what they want and assign away. Which would indicate why some things have lots of funky stuff but then no stat mods.

I wonder if any players are running some sort of data analysis on armors to try and determine what are grouped together.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I'm pretty sure it's a programming limitation. Why? Because look at all those AF->AF+1 sets that drop elemental resistance.

Chaos Gauntlets have:
DEF 12 | HP+11 | DEX+3 | Dark Resist +10 | Weapon Bash +10

Chaos Gauntlets +1 have:
DEF 20 | HP+11 MP+11 | STR+6 DEX+6 | Accuracy+3 | Weapon Bash +10

They seemed to have dropped the Dark resist for the Accuracy because they had to.

Then again Warlock Gloves -> +1 Goes from 4 "abilities" to 3, dropping resistance for nothing. Maybe that's just for parallel structure, idk.

[Kimiko]

lolPS2limitations

[Conker]

Someone was saying they are adding Black belt items and other mats and shit to nyzul assault is this true? i couldnt find anything about it to confirm this anyone know?

[Max™]

Wow that would be hilarious.

King Abjs > Ein
Everything else > Nyz

[Corrderio]

Someone was saying they are adding Black belt items and other mats and shit to nyzul assault is this true? i couldnt find anything about it to confirm this anyone know?

No, it even said on the first page they're not adding anymore rewards to Nyzul HNM floors.

[miokomioko]

No, it even said on the first page they're not adding anymore rewards to Nyzul HNM floors.

With the exception floor 100.

[Corrderio]

With the exception floor 100.

Ahh, guess I missed that. But if I took a guess.... probably something like Imp. Wootz Ingots or a ton of Alexanderite, something along. As much as I wish SE would make another way to obtain things like Ridill/D.Ring like they did BB items, Nyzul would be retarded for that purpose.

[Conker]

Yea it sounded like an awful thing didnt think it was very plausable lol

[Gwynplaine]

Stratics has a writeup of the summit now:
http://ffxi.stratics.com/php-bin/sho...?content=28423

This made me wtf

As such, they will be adding melee-focused Puppetmaster armor, likely via the recently introduced Zeni Notorious Monster system. Other new endgame gear is coming too – Square-Enix indicated their plans to revamp the loot tables for the Jailers in Sky rather than simply adding SCH and DNC to the existing drops.

I'd be skeptical of hard info from anyone who calls sky gods "Jailers" but interesting.

also

Also, the official windowing tool is looking to stay the same. Square-Enix, however, did admit that they will consider requests for features to be added to it that do not significantly unbalance the game compared to those without access to windowed mode on a PC.

[ronin sparthos]

By Zeni armor and puppetmaster they meant the Enkidu set which is pretty amazing for a job that had slim melee options before this last update.

At least they followed through with that promise to Puppetmasters, who have been asking for melee armor for the longest time now.

[Corrderio]

Stratics has a writeup of the summit now:
http://ffxi.stratics.com/php-bin/sho...?content=28423

This made me wtf

As such, they will be adding melee-focused Puppetmaster armor, likely via the recently introduced Zeni Notorious Monster system. Other new endgame gear is coming too – Square-Enix indicated their plans to revamp the loot tables for the Jailers in Sky rather than simply adding SCH and DNC to the existing drops.

I'd be skeptical of hard info from anyone who calls sky gods "Jailers" but interesting.

If they put COR on the sky god gear I'll cream. Osode/Seiryu Kote would pwn.