Nyzul Weapon Information

[baudelaire]

31 fucking DMG? SERIOUSLY?

While the dmg/delay aren't finalized, I'd be more concerned with the delay.

[miokomioko]

Are you guys fucking braindead or did you just miss the loud and clear part about how the dmg ratings will not be high?

[Vail]

Wow...THF looks terrible and has awful DMG and Delay. How exciting.

Also. Why would they let IGN preview a FFXI weapon?

and if "enhance sneak/trick attack" is not greater then 10% boost then X's knife is better <.>;

well ofcourse you could go for Vajra/X's but eh, priorities says I'm going for X's first.

[Loziel]

31 fucking DMG? SERIOUSLY?

Seriously, why are people still bitching over this with these weapons?

The Nyzul relic weapons are not designed to be the most hard-hitting weapons in the game; rather, they are meant to enhance the defining traits of each job.

Ill take the aftermath effect all day long over a couple of points of dmg, especially if 'Occasionally' is as good as it has been on every other weapon with it on there.

[Max™]

X's/Vajra or Mandau/Vajra with enhanced SA/TA could be interesting, especially since the aftermath effect would probably work off hand, and oh, look at that, you could use the WS with either weapon.

Probably add some sort of multiplier to the Dex/Agi mod or something potentially ridiculous like that.

[Mirax]

Whats more is that people better hope aftermath works offhand , I dont see any reason why it wont, the wording doest seem to hint that it wont, but can never be sure. I still think that it'll be solid offhand assuming the double attack doesn't require aftermath. Even though X's and Blau will still be in the running.

Yeah the person above me mentioned this too right as I posted, oh well.

[Max™]

I'm a bastard like that, so sorry.

I don't see why aftermath wouldn't work offhand, be interesting to see if the double only applies to that hand, but the acc/att should apply.


Hell, it seems like they intended these to be usable offhanded in a variety of situations, since they wanted to keep the Dyna relics as top tier, and specifically mention that the WS can be used once it's learned, even with a different weapon. It would make sense that Nagi would be great if you didn't have a Kikoku, but you'd use it offhand if you did.

[Neosutra]

The only way it could is if the Enhanced effect (as yet unknown) made up for the loss of the 2.5x dmg proc over time. The only thing I could think of that might come close is if they somehow enhanced Meditate - either by severely lowering its recast, or making it yield much more TP - or hell, just giving permanent Regain.

Not very imaginative if you think thats the only way it would outparse Amano.

50% DA > 2.5% chance at doing 2.5x damage. If the boost in acc/attack come close to the amano acc bonus, then amano just got owned.

[Slott]

31 fucking DMG? SERIOUSLY?

X's knife is only 34 damage, yet is deemed one of the best offhands possible. Vajra double attacks. I wouldn't write it off just yet.

[Neosutra]

Are you guys fucking braindead or did you just miss the loud and clear part about how the dmg ratings will not be high?

Oh shit, im sorry, all complaining about weapons being too low base damage and too high delay must therefore stop, because SE said they wouldnt be awesome.

That daggers DPS is definately something to complain about.

[Ohaigaiz]

Go here for more info about the relics.

[Max™]

Top end Dmg GKT under Amano is what, Onimaru, Dmg 83?

Nyzul GKT, just a hunch.
Dmg 80 Dly 450
Enhances Store TP effect (giving native 6 hit with just Rajas or less maybe).
Aftermath: Increased Acc/Att
Occasionally attacks twice.

[Deader2818]

Oh shit, im sorry, all complaining about weapons being too low base damage and too high delay must therefore stop, because SE said they wouldnt be awesome.

That daggers DPS is definately something to complain about.

Its not like SE lied to you. They have been made exactly what they said to do. Enhance things that define the job.

I really dont know where people get the idea these would be better the Dynamis relics when they clearly said thats not what they wanted to do with these.

[Neosutra]

Top end Dmg GKT under Amano is what, Onimaru, Dmg 83?

Nyzul GKT, just a hunch.
Dmg 80 Dly 450
Enhances Store TP effect (giving native 6 hit with just Rajas or less maybe).
Aftermath: Increased Acc/Att
Occasionally attacks twice.

Im betting on enhances Third Eye.

[Neosutra]

Its not like SE lied to you. They have been made exactly what they said to do. Enhance things that define the job.

I really dont know where people get the idea these would be better the Dynamis relics when they clearly said thats not what they wanted to do with these.

Are you people fucking brain dead?

People are not getting upset because they were BETRAYED OMG.

They are making legitimate complaints about a weapons cost versus worth, stfu.

[Ansems]

I /facepalmed over RDM's. I hope this is a hoax cause, that is not exactly awesome. I can't really see the benefit from it. RDM tanking? Saves you a cure? I dunno, I don't think it'd be worth the time/effort for a cureIV while verting. I mean, it's nice, but... Eh.... Maybe all the other weapons give subpar effects?

The hell.. the sword is useful.. unlike exca. yay regen^^
Mag acc ftw

[Maxxthepenguin]

Are you people fucking brain dead?

People are not getting upset because they were BETRAYED OMG.

They are making legitimate complaints about a weapons cost versus worth, stfu.

We don't know how strong the SATA enhancement is. We dont know the "occasionally attacks twice" rate. We don't know WS strength or abilities.

Complaints are not legitimate for THF.

[Gwynplaine]

You won't be laughing at it's damage when it calls Titanis.

[Deader2818]

We don't know how strong the SATA enhancement is. We dont know the "occasionally attacks twice" rate. We don't know WS strength or abilities.

Complaints are not legitimate for THF.

This is just like Dynamis relics when they came out. Everyone was crying about how they were not worth the time to get them then people found out what the WS did and their hidden effects.

I swear, people were expecting like, 40 some odd dmg and 100 some odd delay for THF weapon.

Until these are tested more, we really wont know how great or how bad they are. But they seem pretty promising for what they are so far.

[Sojourn]

You won't be laughing at it's damage when it calls Titanis.

Holy shit, loooool.