Nyzul Weapon Information

[Lyramion]

Look at the weapons this way:


Instead of

-1 hugh 15 inch dick to play with

you get

- 2 small 5 inch dicks ! (ocasionally)

[arshesney]

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure if DV works EXACTLY like Accession in terms of other groups (though I'm pretty sure it does), but what he said.

This brings up something important though, are we sure DV doesn't multiply hate the same way? Since it's only used every 10 minutes, if at all....

WHM can only use Divine Veil in his/her party, like Curaga, you can target anyone within the party and get the AoE effect, if you target someone outside your party the ability gets wasted. This hold true in Campaign also, where you can't "chain" buffs like SCH or SMN.
You can AoE all -na cures and erase, and is treated like casting single spells for hate generation (DV erase or blindna > WHM tanking).

Nyzul relics for melees might be nice, based on aftermath effect duration and actual enhancments, mage's seems crap: even if the m.att/.acc bonuses are on par with HQ staves, how many times you expect a mage to ws at any event?
You need a "phalanx" of SAM with shikioko(sp), or an Icarus Wing every 15 minutes... or... let them build tp on the mobs around?

[Conker]

ahhhh I can see the h2h now.. Enhances "Footwork" effect

[LinktheDeme]

ahhhh I can see the h2h now.. Enhances "Footwork" effect

No it's gonna enhance chiblast so mnks feel useful on hnm again.

[Lyramion]

Nagi speculation . You heard it here first!

Likely:
- Ninjutsu MAB/ACC UP
- Stealth UP
- Resist Bind UP


Maybe:
- Subtle Blow UP
- Longer Duration of Ninjutsu Debuffs
- Ninja Tool Expertise


Unlikely:
- Ehance Dual Wield

[bercus]

WHM can only use Divine Veil in his/her party, like Curaga, you can target anyone within the party and get the AoE effect, if you target someone outside your party the ability gets wasted.

WHM can use Divine Veil + Erase on the own Party only.
WHM can use Divine Veil + -na on ANY Party. (Unless all my outside Alliance DV Paralyna´s on Tank Parties were a Fata Morgana)
WHM can´t use AoE Cure on other Partys. (SCH only)

Actually this Club is really hot. If it is really permanent Divine Veal then it is a really crazy piece. You can basically cast Paralyna on all 3 parties of the Alliance and everyone is unparalyzed. (Unless with Club equipped your restricted with permanent DV to your own PT only which I doubt)

Still it is not worth the effort for me to get the club. I want to do other things then for one year Nyzul, Assaults, Salvage and saving Einherjarthingpoints.

[Viviton]

The RDM's sword is pretty lame, i can't even remember the last time i used my joyeuse.

We solo with Bind, not with a Sword.


ViVi~

[Bingbong]

Nagi speculation . You heard it here first!

Likely:
- Ninjutsu MAB/ACC UP
- Stealth UP
- Resist Bind UP


Maybe:
- Subtle Blow UP
- Longer Duration of Ninjutsu Debuffs
- Ninja Tool Expertise


Unlikely:
- Ehance Dual Wield

BORKEN NAGI speculation (AKA: drool factor +10)
Aftermath: adds an extra shadow for every utsusemi cast.

5:Ni 4: Ichi... <drool>

[Spira]

wouldn't Enhances "Utsusemi" effect be better in that case?

doesn't seem likely they'd pick 1 spell out of a spell repertoire to bump up tho.. spell favoritism works differently from JA/JT

[bercus]

I think they said only Abilities/Traits will be enhanced.
Since Ninja has not too many of them.....

[LinktheDeme]

Nagi
DMG:32
Delay :225
Enhances Sange Effect
Enhances Mijin Gakure Effect
Aftermath: Increase Acc/Atk
Occasionally Hits twice

Calling it now

[Maxxthepenguin]

Oh it's the fun "Let's come up with the most underwhelming items possible" time?

I guess it's a tradition by now.

[Cyprias]

Totally gonna be subtle blow. :/

[Lyramion]

Ya I would bet on subtle blow.... but that is already Kikokus special.... :/


Another "Speciality" of NIN would be "Haste". Shinobi Ring and Earring both give it. Nagi should be 5% Haste!

[LinktheDeme]

weapons still gonna be regardless because it can double attack unless the ws sucks balls

[Maxxthepenguin]

I'm expecting either a Ninjutsu nuke enhancement that we won't know about for a year since who wants ninjutsu nukes or an utsusemi enhancement. The Ninjutsu enhancement would actually be a huge enhancement, making the wheel a powerful DD tool. The Uts enhancement would be shadows. Maybe a dual wield enhancement, but that's too common and nothing that has been shown has common enhancements. Other than those, there is always the wild card.

[eva00r]

What if ?

Nagi
DMG:32
Delay :225
Enhances Dual Wield Effect
Aftermath: Increase Acc/Atk
Occasionally Hits twice

[Budonez]

weapons still gonna be regardless because it can double attack unless the ws sucks balls

watch katana be the only weapon that doesn't get "occasionally attacks twice" :\
edit: the double dmg seems a bit more reasonable.

[Priran]

Something to think about is that in all of the pictures of the Nagi, the NIN is holding two.

So either:

-SE is playing with model viewer again
-Nagi are not Rare, and the quests are repeatable
-Nagi are not Rare, and you are given two for completing the quests
-Nagi behaves like a H2H weapon

[dejet]

ok what is with people saying "but se said they are more then about dps" god for all we know the thf dagger might give +200% hate to the person you TA. think about it, we have no fing clue what they are going to do. even if its only a boost to DMG what did you want on the dagger? a 60dmg 150 delay wep with an added effect of ultima? get real SE is trying to make good weps that help the job(im a little mad at the whm one tho i would of liked +10% to my cures) but the DV is win. so i have to still hold onto my other club when i cast cures is it that hard to macro something in?

rdm one i dont like... i cant think of anything to do with vert that people seem to be overlooking like with thf dagger. if anything lik people said if the effect lasts for maybe even a min! a sam can give you 200%tp in no time. i can see the weps being very helpfull for zerg fights or even longer fights where you might have a few sams with the TP give.

guys they are not in the game, we have not seem them used(on anything outside of a few vids on mobs that have 500hp...), and even more se said they might change them.

last thing. i want to know what did you really want on your thf dagger +40 Evasion? that have been better?