Nyzul Weapon Information

[Weeks]

Unless these end up being a whole lot easier to get than I was thinking, I imagine this will lead to a WHM tweak somewhere down the line. Once people get a taste of how good perma-Veil is in say Einherjar, every WHM who doesn't want to quest it and their LSmates will start begging for 1-3 min Divine Seal recast. Of course, until Square listens WHMs without Yagrush will be second-class citizens.

[Cow_k]

I highly doubt they'd use a merit ability to enhance on any of these weapons. At the very least it would be incredibly stupid to do so seeing as how not everyone merits the same abilities.

[dejet]

ya thats gone years back. the days of thf/nin being out of hand strong getting tp 2x the speed of sams lol. i think they called it a glich in the update notes lol something like

"the effect of dual wild will be change because of the use for one hand weps gaining tp a to fast a rate"

also the TP floor nerf took place in 2005 or 2006?

[Max™]

Plus they adjusted the tp rate of 2hers, you notice it when you compare the time per round, and rounds to 100%, over the 480 mark I think the change was.

The slower your delay, the more the ratio of melee/WS dmg slides towards 50/50, so no, 2 120 delay weapons aren't getting twice the TP speed, you're getting like 4% per swing tops.

[Xno Kappa]

Oh that is quite cruel. Throw a couple jobs out there, just the few that the majority of the player base really don't care for, then leave the sams, plds, drk, etc hanging until Sept.

Of course I shouldn't be surprised, this is SE after all.

You know, there's so much fucking fail in this post that it practically proves what everyone's been bitching about in the past updates. Has to be a woosh.

EDIT: For lulz clarity factor.

EDIT UPON EDIT: Your a fucking retard.

[dejet]

we all know sam relic is going to be a 450delay GK with dmg 100 the WS will be 3 hit, close dark, do about 1500 dmg. help hasso/third eye. calling it.

hasso now gives 30% haste
eye is on a recast of 5sec and will have no less then 3 dodge.

o and this will answer our tank prob. (o wait thats not end game tank prob...)

[Dohorehn]

still can't get over how awesome death penalty is... *sigh*

[Priran]

you forgot that the WS will have added effect: death

[Lyramion]

Last I checked there was no TP floor anymore?

I heard floor is 4.5 TP? never checked it back tho

[Seraph]

I think they released info on these jobs because the others just require a good amount more testing to maintain balance. Enhancing any one of whms abilities and magic acc. isnt going to overpower the job, so no worries. Give dnc an extra step, np np. Start fucking with jobs that are already pretty strong (like war/sam/pld) for instance, and you have to get pretty delicate with what you tweak.

My HOPE for Burtgang is:

45 damage, 225 delay
"Enhances Rampart" (Gives emnity bonus like sentinal with AoE sentinal like damage reduction, mostly so I can split rampat and sentinal up for a good hate spike every 2 min)
Aftermath: "Increases Defense and Emnity"
Occasionally Attacks Twice

What I expect from Burtgang:

45 damage, 225 delay
"Enhances Chivalry" (Increases TP/MP restore ratio)
Aftermath: "Increases Defense and lolEvasion"
Occasionally Attacks Twice.

Im pretty sure it will be as gay, or as exactly gay as the second example.

Also, if the mnk weapon enhances footwork im going to puke.

They could just be lazy and make "Enhances Sentinel" and make it like Invincible damage reduction for the 30s without the Invincible level hate boost.

It's totally going to be "Enhances Shield Bash" though, so I can do 44 damage instead of 22. Forget the fact I dont have captain rank, Nyzul weapon, the key item, any of the HNMish style kills, and of the points/stones.... /sigh

[Korremar]

Instead of ceaseless, incessant bitching, here's an idea: They said there's going to be some sort of BC battlefield for the relic upgrade. There's of course no way to know what it'll be until it comes out, but what would YOU like to see in a class-specific relic upgrade fight?

Personally, I'd rather like a 6-man, buffed Maat-esque fight. I want to fight a mob that plays a scary version of your job. Thief, for example. Start with the normal "big THF mob" things; high Eva, high Triple Attack rate, etc., but then make it occasionally pop Hide and become untargetable until it Sneak Attacks a random person on the hate list. If you're fighting the NIN, I want him to depop on occasion, and appear elsewhere, tossing shuriken or Ni/San debuffs. Give PLD a nasty Reprisal, and the conal Shield Bash of the Ark Angel; let the RDM Bind/Grav and enfeeble spam you.

What would you like to see?

[Starr]

I heard floor is 4.5 TP

Me too.

[Jkun]

What would you like to see?

A reskinned, dark, psycho automaton (maybe a bit psycho like in the final PUP AF BCNM), controlled by Ghanraam (sp) himself, and has every attachment you've ever traded into the automaton shop, but as a much more powerful version. Insane flash, crazy Stoneskin, etc.

[Sagacious Sundi]

What would you like to see?

Alexander Prime. Then you get a 1-time choice: Ability to summon Alexander or receive your weapon.

Or Gilgamesh's multi-armed brother steals your weapon and you have to fight him. On each hand is a different weapon, 1 for each person that enters and its their Nyzul/Balrahn's/mythic/Aht Urhgan relic weapon.

[Xno Kappa]

Lets not get the lolavatars involved in this.

[LD]

Or Gilgamesh's multi-armed brother steals your weapon and you have to fight him. On each hand is a different weapon, 1 for each person that enters and its their Nyzul/Balrahn's/mythic/Aht Urhgan relic weapon.

The fact that Gilgamesh is JUST a pirate in this God Damn game pisses me off to no end. I'm hoping we see him in the past as he was meant to be, but he had his 6 extra arms cut off by the end of the war.


Oh, uh...
I was thinking we'd fight each weapon's previous owner, like in Glanzfaust's fight, it'd be Dalha weilding it, kicking your ass.

[ronin sparthos]

Wouldnt that mean the BLU sword fight would be against Bahlran pre-Flayer incident?

Sounds kinda cool, especially if he was as overpowered as Raubahn was in the Alexander fight with Eyes on Me.

[gandorf]

Meh, This whm club looks really nice but it doesn't make me happy. I don't want to have to get this relic just so I can get a pt invite on whm before a rdm and sch.

Something I'm not understanding with the questing weaponskills. Are they gonna be for everyone even without relic or only for people who upgraded it?

[Charismatic]

I don't want to have to get this relic just so I can get a pt invite on whm before a rdm and sch.

Don't you worry your pretty little head about that, you still won't be able to.

[miokomioko]

The real question is wtf will Tizona have? Enhances "Chain Affinity" ?

In fact, I'm calling the following:

WAR - Enhances Retaliation (perma retaliation without movement speed reduction)
Monk - Enhances Footwork (-50% delay for footwork attacks)
Black Mage - Enhances Magic Attack Bonus (+15% dmg to all spells)
Paladin - Enhances Shield Mastery (20+tp per shield block)
Dark Knight - Enhances Souleater (halves the HP lost per hit without affecting dmg)
Beastmaster - Enhances Charm, Enhances Call Beast (doubles duration of charm and familiar'd charm, call beast caps at lv.80)
Bard - Enhances Pianissimo? lol (+50% song potency/duration when Pianissimo'd)
Ranger - Enhances Velocity Shot (+30% racc/ratk -50% ranged delay, no reduction of atk speed)
Samurai - Enhances Hasso, Enhances Seigan (double atk/str bonuses from hasso, siegan = 100% counter and no recast delay increase)
Ninja - Enhances Dual Wield (one more level of Dual Wield...)
Summoner - Enhances Elemental Siphon, Avatar Attack Bonus (double MP regained from siphon, +30 avatar atk)
Blue Mage - Enhances Chain Affinity (perma chain affinity and perma burst affinity)
Scholar - Enhances Modus Veritas (+150% helix dmg and no helix duration reduction)


YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS

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