Nyzul Weapon Information

[Tricen]

Yeah but if you are using enspells you're either wanting to hit for 0 and to enspell dmg, ot you are farming. If you're farming, then spending that much time and effort on a sword to farm for enspell accuracy is a little... Not smart.

It's also enhancing magic based, so macc wouldn't affect it, I think.

[Evelyn]

I find the double attack interesting, but keep in mind these aren't the final versions. Also pikko said they added a huge regain effect to "have more fun". Its possible the DA effect is there for the same reason.

EDIT: also, enspells are useful for any meleeing you do, not just "farming" or "hit for 0". Its possible to effectively melee EM or higher, and using the right enspell makes things go lots faster.

[Jedimasta]

Well, the TP thing is nothing new for that battlefield. I'm guessing they also had a huge regen and refresh rate while they were messing around. The double attack could very well be there to stay.

[Not Kuno]

Dissapointing/10.

Guess SE didn't learn from their mistakes and all the mage relics suck ass. Here's a hint SE: Don't give the mages new WSes but instead give them new spells/summons on the relics. Or make them better then staves.

[Hyan]

Is it really that bad if what I quoted at the top of the page is true?

[Not Kuno]

Is it really that bad if what I quoted at the top of the page is true?

That makes it even worse. It means square doesn't know dick about mages. Let's have the rdm melee to 300 TP before casting every enfeeble! Oh boy.

[Hyan]

But if that makes the sword better than staves?

[Xno Kappa]

I think its an awesome Convert macro piece but the weapon as a whole is pretty meh. Maybe the weaponskill itself will justify the use of the sword.

[Suteru]

it probably is something good. Im sure SE knows that RDMs dont really use Swords to melee to begin with (might change tho).. so whatever RDM-benefitting stats they put on there might be very game-breaking in that sense.. imagine if it were a 200% return with convert.. you convert with 500HP and 10MP, you get 1000MP and 20HP back, that kind of thing...
It'd be really useful.. but then again RDMs with the current Convert are spoilt as it is.. :D

I want more 8 references.

It's not a 200% return on Convert. It just gives more HP (50% + MP converted) in return so you don't have to curebomb yourself after you use it. That's it.

[Not Kuno]

But if that makes the sword better than staves?

Except you would still have to do a WS every time before you enfeeble? Maybe you can get a few off if the effect lasts long enough. I'm sure thats great if you're like.. kiting things or want stuff bound. Just run right up there and smack it with your sword.

[miokomioko]

I'm still looking for a reason for a RDM to be meleeing with a sword in the first place.

Kenkonken and the new 6-hit weaponskill are welcome as PUP needs anything it can get. Double Attack, Acc/Atk bonus, Martial Arts... I lose 7acc/7eva/7subtle and 1DMG from Hades... I really hope that the quicker attacks and frequent use of the new WS can pull it out ahead.

The reduced overload rate is honestly a little bit meh unless it's massively drastic. I don't overload unless I'm impatient after Activating or I'm spamming Ice Maneuvers for Ice Maker, even then I usually keep Condenser + Water Maneuver up for safety. I just don't know. Automaton Acc/Atk/Macc/Mab overall increase would have been more appropriate, given the difficulty of obtaining. Not to mention PUP has no other relic to speak of... unless they unexpectedly slap PUP on Spharai.

The WS alone will probably be a godsend for my pup/nin soloing excursions.

[Hyan]

Kind of depends if the effect wears after mob dies or after you zone.. if it's the 2nd one, sounds good enough imo

[Not Kuno]

Kind of depends if the effect wears after mob dies or after you zone.. if it's the 2nd one, sounds good enough imo

Your innocence is adorable.

[Falisa]

Why'd they have to give DNC and COR to the slow websites

[ByeByeTasai]

The RDM sword might be better then staves if the magic acc/attk is high enough, and the effect lasts long enough. Right now it's all pure speculation, but SE might surprise us. Here's to hoping then new Tier 2 En-spells rdm is getting will add additional effect enfeebles as well.

Does anyone have any information on the Gastraphetes yet? I'm just aching to know if this bow will occasionally fire two projectiles. That's something RNGs have been requesting for a very long time. No doubt it enhances Accuracy Bonus as well, hopefully enhances Rapid Shot instead though IMO.

[Spira]

It's not a 200% return on Convert. It just gives more HP (50% + MP converted) in return so you don't have to curebomb yourself after you use it. That's it.

oh well.. thats still good for hardcore RDMs... but not very worth it in my opinion, since I know I won't be meleeing on my RDM anyway..

i didn't read the detailed report when i posted that just now anyway... i now know better ;o

[Valkrish]

Double/Triple techs from chrono trigger, Go.

i can dream

[kayn]

So we've gotten an idea on how strong the nyzul relics are going to be.
Let the speculation begin on how they'll buff the old relics!

[Julian]

Wow, did they seriously withhold that info just for some really shitty sword? God damn

And wtf at you people going on about enspells2, meleeing higher level mobs is dumb compared to sleep>nuke or bind>nuke or w/e >_> enspell2s would be retarded imo

Anyway, the way I see it, these weapons will probably be a godsend to jobs that need it (pup) and for jobs that are already powerful (blm, rdm, war, sam, etc) it probably wont be that great.

The WS will be questable anyway, so the less relics you have to upgrade to be "uber," the better, imo.

[Phraust]

So we've gotten an idea on how strong the nyzul relics are going to be.
Let the speculation begin on how they'll buff the old relics!

This is easy for GK, they will just make it so Kaiten doesn't hit for 0-40 damage...

Also, (Edit) I doubt it, but I wonder if you were to upgrade/quest the Pld, Rdm, and Blu WS if you could use it on any of the Sword Weilding jobs, or if they'd be strictly for the intended weapon holder.