The Myriad Arms of Balrahn, cont. (07/29/2008)

[Charismatic]

Are you?

[Rocl]

Oh, that's exactly what's ganna happen. New convert macro piece! Woo.

If you expected some game-breaking sword that would fart rainbows and feed you while taking a shit you're pretty retarded. I had high hopes for some sort of "Enfeebling Potency" or Magic Accuracy on the sword, but you have to admit those were sort of far-fetched. (Aftermath doesn't count for Mages)

The only weapon so far that is borderline absolute shit is Red Mage. I think that's fair considering we've seen less than half of them. PS: It looks like MNK AF2 shoes in the first picture

[Almalexia]

I'm hoping for higher denominations dropped from NMs/boss chariots, increased drop rate (4+) from ordinary machinery, and perhaps some optional NM/??? for bonus alexandrites.

The entire news update could have been simplified into one paragraph. Seems to me that the wordiness is meant to detract from the painfully obvious cockblocking 50,000 alexandrites imposed on anyone who planned to upgrade. On the other hand, I'm glad that they introduced the quest even if it is half-implemented. At least we have guidance for the other parts of the upgrade process, which I'm certain nobody has finished already.

I call 10,000 for the new quota. If the "new means" of acquiring gems are everything I hope for, ~9000 alexandrite should be introduced into circulation over 3 to 4 months. Incidentally, I may become broke 3 to 4 months following the September patch.

[Ansems]

There are several points of departure between the two weapon groups, however, including both the series of questlines required to procure them, as well as the weapons' attributes themselves. Whereas the successful upgrading of a relic weapon demands that a player repeatedly participate in Dynamis runs, and subsequently requires a potentially large sum of gil, the mythic weapons are tempered by players fulfilling a series of conditions over a prolonged period of time. Though the means of acquiring relic and mythic weapons may differ greatly in many respects, a number of factors were taken into account before the introduction of the latter to ensure that the eventual time required for obtaining them would be roughly equivalent.
A general survey was conducted to ascertain several important facts regarding Salvage and the alexandrite drops within. These included, but were not limited to, considerations such as how many instances of Salvage were being run by players, which routes were being taken and which enemies fought most frequently in each area, and an overall gauge of player progression through Salvage. From this data, an estimation was extrapolated of how much alexandrite would drop server-wide on any given day. Following the introduction of the mythic weapon quests, we were able to confirm that the alexandrite drops were occurring on a par with what was assumed would be the case. The overall amount available for distribution, however, was judged to be overwhelmingly lacking.

A battlefield challenge will be added in the next version update as the final step to receive the Nzyul Isle relics. Also, the cost in Alexandrites to obtain the relic weapons will be reduced, and changes are planned to make collecting the currency easier.

ToAU Dyna zone, with gears that drop alexrocks.

I fucking said it

[Septimus]

Finding out what those weapons do, as a mage I really don't give a shit about these anymore. D: SE is retarded when it comes to mages and assumes some "one size fits all" model is the best for them.

Kuno, I have a friend who wants to talk to you.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/4/4...strum_icon.png "Hi! I'm Mr. Claustrum! I do absolutely nothing to enhance your casting skill! My one-size-fits-all is that I am worthless to all BLMs and SMNs because I only have damage and delay, and absolutely no magic attack bonus. And I look like a Kingdom Signet Staff. People who upgrade me are delusional."

Suddenly Mythic Weapons don't seem so bad.

P.S. http://wiki.bluegartr.com/The_Myriad...alrahn%2C_cont. for people who cannot see S-E images at work.

[LD]

If you expected some game-breaking sword that would fart rainbows and feed you while taking a shit you're pretty retarded. I had high hopes for some sort of "Enfeebling Potency" or Magic Accuracy on the sword, but you have to admit those were sort of far-fetched. (Aftermath doesn't count for Mages)

The only weapon so far that is borderline absolute shit is Red Mage. I think that's fair considering we've seen less than half of them. PS: It looks like MNK AF2 shoes in the first picture

AM effects have been confirmed to be longer than a breadbox. Until we know how much longer, I still consider the effects significant enough to contribute to the weapon's value.

I zoom in and the shoes look the same. The first pic is kinda hard to see, but you can see it curl up like in the 2nd one. I could be wrong obviously, and then there's the whole 'SE likes to pick out random gear' thing, but there ya go.

[Spira]

theres no ToA dynamis zone in the dats.

[Hanyoko]

With the current drop rates, 5 Alexandrites per salvage run is a generous estimate.
Group going every day of the week would get 35 per week, or 1820 per year.
Over ~28 years they would get the 50,000 needed.
If instead say there are 50 hardcore salvage groups that go every day it would take ~28 weeks for 50,000 "drites" to drop.

I suspect Nyzul Isle machines will now drop them. Or they may surprise us and have some new ISNMs with machines. 10k drites seem a bit high still to me, but 1-5k is very reasonable considering the exclusivity of doing salvage or nyzul and needing to do both to upgrade.

[Auspice]

I'm going to take a wild stab and say those shots are probably of the Mythic BC. Either Askar McOdin is Balrahn or the guy he's attacking is (notice how they never show the attackers face and the target is completely obscured by the effect.).

Agreed; all three pictures show the dude in Askar with different weapons so the person getting owned by the WS is probably meant to be us.

If the final BC is a 1v1 with Balrahn I'm going to shit.

[LD]

"G5 II: The Maatening"

There's a new incredibly old dude you'll hate more than anything.

[Appie]

im kinda curious now..
how long does it actually take to upgrade a full relic now? assuming... you farm all the currency...

Assuming you get 150-400 coins per city run?
Stage 2: 1 week
Stage 3: 2.5 weeks
Stage 4: 11 weeks
Stage 5: 12.5 weeks (borrow 30 coins )

Total: 27 weeks of pure city whoring.
I think that's about right?

Iirc the einherjar part and 150k token part would take about 7 months?

[Jkun]

At least it's confirmed you can get new WSs without needing the weapons. But if it's like a mini Maat fight then PUP's is going to be all down to luck again, just like the BCNM60.

"Oh shit Harlequin, np I've got hi-pots, I can't..." MAGIC MORTAR! "...die."

Oh, and every entry to the battlefield eats your level 100 runic key. Just for luls.

[Sunrider]

Not only are they correcting a problem so quickly, but they gave a detailed exposition of how they fucked it up in the first place, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Not too long ago a change like this would have been made a year late, accompanied only by a line like "The quest Duties, Tasks, and Deeds has been adjusted".

Who said I was complaining? They need to admit they're wrong more often.

[Faithe]

I think SE did this on purpose. They didn't want anyone to complete the relic before they release the second patch for it.

Jkun, you must be a horrible puppetmaster.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Either Askar McOdin is Balrahn or the guy he's attacking is (notice how they never show the attackers face and the target is completely obscured by the effect.).

But he's a soulflayer in Hazhalm, unless when you become a flayer your body becomes a vessel for the beast within (or something) and you kinda "die". But then again he's the only guy that would make sense.

[LD]

Really makes me hope that rumor about only having to do this once is true. Be nice if the BC is the only thing you have to repeat; even if a Mythic initially takes longer than a Relic to produce, any subsequent Mythic could take a lot less work.

But he's a soulflayer in Hazhalm, unless when you become a flayer your body becomes a vessel for the beast within (or something) and you kinda "die". But then again he's the only guy that would make sense.

Well, God knows it wouldn't be the first time they changed a mobs name, but even if they don't do that, Balrahn was probably one of the first Blue Mages. Due to their chaotic nature, that could mean any number of things, maybe even replication. If I can pull something like that ridiculously cliched DBZ plot line out of my ass, SE can dig up something weirder and actually get you to gobble it up, no questions asked.


Also, I'm still hoping Balrahn is actually Gilgamesh (there was a BLU who never died, it's possible). Bunch of weapons? Eyepatch? Kind of a douche to some of the people he takes 'em from?

[Hyan]

Really makes me hope that rumor about only having to do this once is true. Be nice if the BC is the only thing you have to repeat; even if a Mythic initially takes longer than a Relic to produce, any subsequent Mythic could take a lot less work.

I bet you only have to repeat the 3rd quest (alex., assaults, eyepatch, the book) and the BCNM to get another weapon (and of course get the NQ from nyzul). If SE was nice upgrading second weapon would only take 2 of the 4 needed things for 3rd quest but I donnn't see it happenin'.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Also, my guesses for the new ways to obtain alexandrite:
-Chariots, with command chariots (bosses) dropping extra or something super special (I don't think -any- chariot drops them currently)
-Nyzul ramparts or something from Nyzul, but at a very low rate to keep it a mostly Salvage thing
-New popped Salvage NMs
-Reinforcements? Beastmen? (Salvage-only)
-ZNMs?

[Toth]

Did they hire Elmer to write their posts now? So far the update notes have been...shockingly detailed.

[Charismatic]

I think SE did this on purpose. They didn't want anyone to complete the relic before they release the second patch for it.

Jkun, you must be a horrible puppetmaster.

Yeah man, if you die to Magic Mortar that means you must suck.
AMIRITE GAIZ?