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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    I'm surprised your ls doesn't promote this strategy considering your other stances on endgame behavior and some of your members
    So we bot and? I don't see what you're point is. Their linkshell is nothing more than a collection of guys who have fairly low standards and obviously can't control their members and are also trying to abuse their linkshell lol. Simply put the whole point of Epitaphrx making a linkshell was to destroy Demo. Hes resorted to all kinds of shit to get the linkshell to turn on itself. It's not working and now his shell looks even more like a clown show than it did before.

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    There's nothing wrong with being asshole to other LS. Nothing wrong with screwing over a rival LS who has talked shit about you in the past imo. But I think what Xajii was hinting at was your overwhelming pride in botting and various other ways to gain an advantage. Don't think that we haven't stayed close with our ex members. I love my drama what can I say. Yet, I've never been one for botting and my LS has strived for 3 years, more so than people know at this moment. Sometimes it pays to out smart your so called enemies.

    Oh and concerning Epitaphrx. I guess I could say sorry or you're welcome for the extra laughs he's caushing you guys. He tried to rejoin my LS few weeks before he made his little HNM LS. He wasn't accepted for various reasons. I talk to the guy but I can't stand him for more than about 30 seconds. Swish will be gone from that LS soon as he can't manipulate Drach anymore and Drach (Epitaphrx) will either try to kiss Clynt's ass to rejoin at some point or just server jump and try to start a new in the end.

  3. #123
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    Hex supplies some words of wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex View Post
    There's nothing wrong with being asshole to other LS. Nothing wrong with screwing over a rival LS who has talked shit about you in the past imo. But I think what Xajii was hinting at was your overwhelming pride in botting and various other ways to gain an advantage. Don't think that we haven't stayed close with our ex members. I love my drama what can I say. Yet, I've never been one for botting and my LS has strived for 3 years, more so than people know at this moment. Sometimes it pays to out smart your so called enemies.
    Except botting =/= drama within the LS, it's just something used by the LS to get what we want; completely irrelevant to promoting ninja lotting, lol.

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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Shinzon* View Post
    nothing more than a collection of guys who have fairly low standards
    I'd sooner define your shell by this than theirs, given what information I have.

    So a group left your shell or decided they hated your shell enough to team up and compete with you. OK. That's fine by me. Happens all the time, really. Sure, I don't know their member base (excepted Drachenwarrior w/e his name is now, and Swishahouse apparently) but I know yours. You're in a glass house, man.

    And just for clarification I'm not really in agreeance with Hex about fucking over other shells, but really, any example of this on Odin isn't very comparable to what seems to go on other servers.

    But to summarize.

    A shell that openly encourages botting and rudeness claims that a group where one guy ninja lotted something and got kicked has... low standards. Uh

    Edit to respond to a post made during this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    Except botting =/= drama within the LS, it's just something used by the LS to get what we want; completely irrelevant to promoting ninja lotting, lol.
    Clearly you didn't read, the leader of this LS asserted that this member was kicked and will not be allowed to return. The fact that he is 'repaying his debt' is merely retribution, not forgiveness.

    As far as botting goes I'd say it's pretty dramatic when you have kids getting banned over it, but I'm not talking so much 'inter-LS' drama here as I am your standards in general. Oh but don't worry Clynt, I'm sure you have your fair share of inter LS drama too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt View Post
    Couldn't be much worse than Epi, lol.

    I heard Epi was going to take E body uncontested, and only let Elvaro lot because people were bitching about it. Today was the first time I've seen Epi on his gimp WAR since he transferred to Kujata...
    Quote Originally Posted by Mensk View Post
    Hi Xajii! On the bright side we don't have to deal with Hex, and you still do lol
    lol clynt you have no idea. (about Hex) But yeah, buck's a retard saying he can be forgiven and that shit's ok

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    You can be surprised what can be bred from various other actions. The reason ninja lotting usually isn't associated with a LS that's big time botting is because they're owning and that person knows there will always be more items in the end and thus why ruin it now.

    The guy probably ninja lotted the Ebody because he knows the LS isn't near as strong as Drach claims it to be. So he took his chance and he got what he could then. It's obvious to him, it's obvious to other members and it's obvious to people close to the situation, get your shit now or you may not have a chance in 6 months.

    I'm self admitted biggest asshole in the world when I choose to be. I don't take anyone's bullshit, I don't fuck around with idiots or greedy bitches. That's why the turn over in my LS sometimes. People want shit they aren't gonna get for a while and they can't talk their way up the ladder and leave. Big deal, least I'm firm and I stand by my shit. Swish tried to talk his way into King gear and other gear in less than 2 months. It didn't worked so he jumped ship to Demo, got what he wanted and quit. I saw that coming a mile away. But in the end, my LS still strives because of my firm hand and that's probably close to why Demo has worked in the end. No matter all the bullshit there's still a confident firm leader with a goal and the LS follows that.

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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex View Post
    There's nothing wrong with being asshole to other LS. Nothing wrong with screwing over a rival LS who has talked shit about you in the past imo. But I think what Xajii was hinting at was your overwhelming pride in botting and various other ways to gain an advantage. Don't think that we haven't stayed close with our ex members. I love my drama what can I say. Yet, I've never been one for botting and my LS has strived for 3 years, more so than people know at this moment. Sometimes it pays to out smart your so called enemies.

    Oh and concerning Epitaphrx. I guess I could say sorry or you're welcome for the extra laughs he's caushing you guys. He tried to rejoin my LS few weeks before he made his little HNM LS. He wasn't accepted for various reasons. I talk to the guy but I can't stand him for more than about 30 seconds. Swish will be gone from that LS soon as he can't manipulate Drach anymore and Drach (Epitaphrx) will either try to kiss Clynt's ass to rejoin at some point or just server jump and try to start a new in the end.
    Our group sure does love the drama, no matter the server

  11. #131
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    Firm hand? Your member list has changed more than the weather over the past few years. All your core members have got the fuck outa Res. Don't know what your talking about.

  12. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    I'd sooner define your shell by this than theirs, given what information I have.

    So a group left your shell or decided they hated your shell enough to team up and compete with you. OK. That's fine by me. Happens all the time, really. Sure, I don't know their member base (excepted Drachenwarrior w/e his name is now, and Swishahouse apparently) but I know yours. You're in a glass house, man.

    And just for clarification I'm not really in agreeance with Hex about fucking over other shells, but really, any example of this on Odin isn't very comparable to what seems to go on other servers.

    But to summarize.

    A shell that openly encourages botting and rudeness claims that a group where one guy ninja lotted something and got kicked has... low standards. Uh

    Edit to respond to a post made during this one:


    Clearly you didn't read, the leader of this LS asserted that this member was kicked and will not be allowed to return. The fact that he is 'repaying his debt' is merely retribution, not forgiveness.

    As far as botting goes I'd say it's pretty dramatic when you have kids getting banned over it, but I'm not talking so much 'inter-LS' drama here as I am your standards in general. Oh but don't worry Clynt, I'm sure you have your fair share of inter LS drama too.
    Who are you? Anyways, a group of people didn't leave our LS. No one left our LS, with the exception of Epi if you want to call it that. He was told to straighten himself out and listen to leaders, or he was going to get kicked, so he left. Everyone else in his LS that was previously in Demo was kicked because they're idiots, didn't go to events, or something like that. I didn't say they were going to forgive him for ninja lotting it, did I? To even let him try and 'repay his debt' is asinine and only sends the message that it's ok, as long as you make up for it. The person that posted that isn't even the leader of the LS, and the members in their own LS think it's a stupid idea. Our standards as far as botting and mpk still don't imply that we would promote ninja lotting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbai View Post
    Firm hand? Your member list has changed more than the weather over the past few years. All your core members have got the fuck outa Res. Don't know what your talking about.
    Kumbai wins 1 to Nothin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex View Post
    You can be surprised what can be bred from various other actions. The reason ninja lotting usually isn't associated with a LS that's big time botting is because they're owning and that person knows there will always be more items in the end and thus why ruin it now.

    The guy probably ninja lotted the Ebody because he knows the LS isn't near as strong as Drach claims it to be. So he took his chance and he got what he could then. It's obvious to him, it's obvious to other members and it's obvious to people close to the situation, get your shit now or you may not have a chance in 6 months.

    I'm self admitted biggest asshole in the world when I choose to be. I don't take anyone's bullshit, I don't fuck around with idiots or greedy bitches. That's why the turn over in my LS sometimes. People want shit they aren't gonna get for a while and they can't talk their way up the ladder and leave. Big deal, least I'm firm and I stand by my shit. Swish tried to talk his way into King gear and other gear in less than 2 months. It didn't worked so he jumped ship to Demo, got what he wanted and quit. I saw that coming a mile away. But in the end, my LS still strives because of my firm hand and that's probably close to why Demo has worked in the end. No matter all the bullshit there's still a confident firm leader with a goal and the LS follows that.
    hmmm

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    Wait, why are we discussing Odin here. I think our biggest drama was other LSes getting pissed that we gave abjurations and Ridills to people who didn't have jobs to use 'em.

    Then again, as color commentary it is pretty amusing. Nevermind, proceed.

  16. #136
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    Because Hex brought in his wonderful linkshell leadership skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumbai View Post
    Because Hex brought in his wonderful linkshell leadership skills.
    That ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt View Post
    Who are you? Anyways, a group of people didn't leave our LS. No one left our LS, with the exception of Epi if you want to call it that. He was told to straighten himself out and listen to leaders, or he was going to get kicked, so he left. Everyone else in his LS that was previously in Demo was kicked because they're idiots, didn't go to events, or something like that. I didn't say they were going to forgive him for ninja lotting it, did I? To even let him try and 'repay his debt' is asinine and only sends the message that it's ok, as long as you make up for it. The person that posted that isn't even the leader of the LS, and the members in their own LS think it's a stupid idea. Our standards as far as botting and mpk still don't imply that we would promote ninja lotting.
    No one's promoting it. Yeah I gathered the guy who posted is a little dim but I don't think that there's ANY evidence that this was promoted.

    As for who I am, hi, I'm xajii, I am from Odin. That fantastic trio of yours that came from my server was originally in the shell I ran with. But I'm not just basing your members off of that. Mostly the posts and stuff the natives make ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    No one's promoting it. Yeah I gathered the guy who posted is a LITTLE DIM but I don't think that there's ANY evidence that this was promoted.

    As for who I am, hi, I'm xajii, I am from Odin. That fantastic trio of yours that came from my server was originally in the shell I ran with. But I'm not just basing your members off of that. Mostly the posts and stuff the natives make ;p
    everybody loves Xajii though, but on a (kind of related) side note. Did Hex really go that emo when all of the good players in lolRes left to join Demo?

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    I was brought into this by Swish Minsk whomever. Both rejectsof my shell when last I checked were both kicked, much like you Kumbai. Even if Ashira and I aren't on the same page 99% (Yay another percent) she was warned about you from the get go Kumbai. BTW ever find it funny you still use the nickname I gave you? Wonder why that is.

    Point that children missed was Demo may be a big time botting LS but they strive because of their leader like any LS. It's like that with LS on Odin and I'm pretty sure it's like that with any LS on Kujata. If the leader is weak, the LS becomes weak and things happen. I don't know Clynt personally and I've never heard him spoken ill of in any way shape or form as a leader. I don't find being an asshole or a prick being spoken ill of mind you.

    Secretpolice is the typical "We couldn't hack it in your LS so we're going to make a new one and be cool and talk shit" LS. It's like that with every ex member and spoiled relationship in game. Drach's LS will hang on for a while because of their botting and sudden insane jealously of Demo. But in the end it won't keep the LS together because Drach isn't a strong enough leader. I mean my god the guy couldn't even keep a sky LS running on Odin. I'm sure Swish will have jumped LS or server before that happens. Kumbai will still remain an emo kid who resorted to being an emo gay kid for even more pity from his so called peers. Demo will continue to bot, continue to get gear, continue to add members. Such is life, such is the vicious circle of FFXI.

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