Fuck Persona3

[Beckwin]

fucking lame ass combat system where simply guessing wrong on a newly encountered enemy can result in the loss of well over an hour of leveling/item hunting process.

goddamit.

[Elcura]

It's not that bad, what you said happened to me once and I learned my lesson after that. If you make deathly sure to backstab every enemy you won't lose a fight. Examine each enemy to get their weaknesses and exploit the shit outta it, if you can't remember then examine again (it's instant). Make Persona with multiple skill types so you can strike weaknesses easy, switch persona if you can't.

Simply put, your mistake is guessing. You should know enemy weaknesses. Compared to other SMT games, P3 is easy.

[Beckwin]

uh, the first time I encounter an enemy I always check the weakness. here's what happened:

-encountered a pair of enemies. 1 was the 5x drop for that section, knew his weakness already, the second was some kind of Magus mob.
-main character turn first. scan the unknown; in the meantime drop a Mazio to knock down Drop enemy, hoping to get lucky with other one.
-in the middle of my party's turn, get scan results back: it has a shitton of ice spells. Immediately in my mind: "oh fuck."
-enemy does a Mabufu, knocking me (my electricty persona had an ice weakness) and akihiko down.
-Yukari and Junpei go next turn; Yukari doesn't heal me up all the way.
-Magus-thingy goes again after Akihiko and main character get up (no chance to change persona btw). Bufudyne Akihiko dead, 1 more! and of course, Bufudynes me, one-shotted.


yay wasted time over bullshit.

and you really can't sneak up on every enemy.

[Hitoshura]

Yes fuck Persona 3. Pay Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne instead.

Also if you continue to play later on just make a Pale Rider, Alice, and Thanatos and just spam Mamudoon and kill everything in sight.

[Beckwin]

the whole persona system is kinda obnoxious; levelling them is pointless and you have to rely on new fuses to keep up in level.

the school grind can get kinda old too, even if the concept is interesting.

I guess I got sucked in by the hype of this game, but it's coming up short in my eyes. I think I'll try to finish it, but goddam there are some really flawed things in this game. I might just cheese out and see if I can force myself to over-level and steamroll it, idk.

[Elcura]

uh, the first time I encounter an enemy I always check the weakness. here's what happened:

-encountered a pair of enemies. 1 was the 5x drop for that section, knew his weakness already, the second was some kind of Magus mob.
-main character turn first. scan the unknown; in the meantime drop a Mazio to knock down Drop enemy, hoping to get lucky with other one.
-in the middle of my party's turn, get scan results back: it has a shitton of ice spells. Immediately in my mind: "oh fuck."
-enemy does a Mabufu, knocking me (my electricty persona had an ice weakness) and akihiko down.
-Yukari and Junpei go next turn; Yukari doesn't heal me up all the way.
-Magus-thingy goes again after Akihiko and main character get up (no chance to change persona btw). Bufudyne Akihiko dead, 1 more! and of course, Bufudynes me, one-shotted.


yay wasted time over bullshit.

and you really can't sneak up on every enemy.

You can sneak up on anything with enough patience. Sure it takes a little longer, but on the plus side you'll never lose hours of playtime cause you got fucked over. While playing P3 I think I got Enemy Advantage like 3 times and the rest was pretty much Player Advantage the whole time.

It's possible to sneak attack every random encounter, there's really no reason why you shouldn't wait a few extra seconds for the enemy to turn its back. Getting Player Advantages is the one thing that'll make the game easier, doing it on floors with new enemies in doubly important.

And I dunno how far you are in the game, but after a while the Persona you can create exceed your level by a shitton and you need to keep up with them.

Maybe it isn't a game for you, if this thread was about FES I would understand lol.

[Beckwin]

I'm playing FES.

the sneaking up thing doesn't work so well when the enemy is crawling around a dead-end. and either way, you're wasting time in a super long game.

[Elcura]

You say that waiting for a chance to get a player advantage is wasting time, but considering I've only lost once to a random encounter (losing about an hours worth of playtime) I'd say in the long run, my game is shorter and filled with less frustration.

Time wasted getting player advantages > time wasted from random encounter death.

[Beckwin]

uh, it's not exactly common that I get caught pants-down like that, but when it rarely happens (maybe 4 times so far?) it's just frustrating.

[Beckwin]

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hurray fucking back to back crits that just shitwrecked my MC. didn't lose too awful much but jesus fucking goddam this is a dumb game sometimes. fuck just let the rest of the party try to finish the battle at least.

[Shini]

To be honest, I've been mesmerized by amazing game. Sure, I've had some GFDI encounters, but, I make sure to save every chance I get. If I know I'm close to a tele-down thing, I usually just dash through the floors as fast as I can, then tele down, save, and go back up.

I'm not quite sure what level you are, but I tend to carry a Narcissus on me so I can at least have a high-resistance to elemental spells.

Another thing I'm starting to learn is putting Yukari on heal support only.

For the amount of hype I heard, I'm loving this game. Maybe the other guys right. Maybe it's just not a game for you.

I know this may sound like a stupid question, but are you level grinding any? After I hit a new area, I tend to grind a bit til I know the enemies can't kick my ass anymore.

[Julian]

Terria o.o

[Hitoshura]

You obviously never played a MegaTen game before, or you just suck at RPG's.

[Charismatic]

That or MegaTen games suck.
There, I said it.

Let the flaming begin.

[Hitoshura]

Nah no flaming. People don't like MegaTen games because they are too hard and just a turn off for people. It didn't even start to get attention until Persona 3 came out, people saw it looked like an animu and just went batshit insane for it, when in reality the series was completely overhauled and changed for the worse.

[Charismatic]

It's not because they are too hard, don't give me that bullshit.
I play games for challenge, the games just suck.

[Julian]

Only reason I haven't picked up any of the older games (already have Nocturne but haven't had the time to try it) is because they look a lot darker and I don't really like that too much :/ and while you think P3 went backwards, going to the older games looks like its going backwards to me, although I can't say much since I haven't tried it yet.

[Hitoshura]

How do you really know that then? Play Nocturne before you come to that conclusion, trust me it's a far superior game. Being able to control all party members (who are demons) is just much better. The choices you make really effect a lot of things in the game. Sure it may not have voice acting (believe me a lot of people complain about this) but I honestly think it's better that way.

The game is set is post apocalyptic Japan and it's just beautiful, the puzzles, battles, music, graphics are all superb. I know you will enjoy it. Sure it's a lot darker but don't completely rule it out then and there, it has it's hilarious moments.

[Exoduso]

Meh, I liked Persona3 once I actually gave it a shot...story is good.

[Kaylia]

fucking lame ass combat system where simply guessing wrong on a newly encountered enemy can result in the loss of well over an hour of leveling/item hunting process.

goddamit.

I've been playing Persona 3 for the last 2 weeks, and wanted to make this topic every fucking days. Game can be so frustrating, especially early when you don't have any ressource.

Those mage hands can go fuck themselves...not sure how many hours I wasted because they assrape you on a back attack without giving you a chance. Same with any mobs that use death spell early when you don't have humunculus. Game is pretty easy most of the time, but freak accident are going to happen, and they are incredibly frustrating. It get a lot easier later when you can "triangle/auto fight" every thing but boss.


I'm still enjoying the game in overall, but there is way too much grinding for my taste (going to the shrine every day get old after a while). The graphics are pretty bad too...it's a shame they are pumping game like this, when other awesome series are canceled.

[edit]
You can send your allies ahead with "destroy the shadow" if you want to avoid a fight in a higher level area. They kill them pretty quicly, and it save you from a nasty back attack. Playing like a wuss after spending 20-30 min in the tower is recommended to avoid shit like this, especially if you got some rare chest you don't want to waste.

You obviously never played a MegaTen game before, or you just suck at RPG's.

You're retarded. This game is just cheap, not hard.