Teen falls 30ft; breaks his back, gets tasered 16 times by police.

[Charismatic]

I would imagine that moving a guy with a broken back to cuff him could potentially be a lot worse than zapping him.

I actually don't imagine that at all...

[Elvis]

DONT TASE ME BRO

I CONCUR

[Leashedragon]

Why is he a suspect rather than a patient? Why, if he's done nothing wrong, and you've seen he has no weapon, do you need to cuff him?

It's more of a precautionary method since they're unsure of the situation. They don't know what he was doing there or what his intent was, even if he was injured. Like jmcgarrell had mentioned as well.


I'm still not sure what to believe. If he really was tassered 19 times, then wow, just wow. It is a little odd that only the parents are reporting that, it seems. There were no witnesses at the scene to back it up? I can't imagine a highway not having cars going past or stopping to see what's going on, the typical rubber necking.

Edit:
Well, I did forget the doctors said he had a high temperature from the tasering and that's why they couldn't operate.

[Kuya]

They should have done what the NY cop did to the CM cyclist, that'll teach him to sleep on the pavement.

Also: don't tasers leave marks?

[jmc]

I would imagine that moving a guy with a broken back to cuff him could potentially be a lot worse than zapping him.

Either way, its not good.

Moving someone with a back injury, can lead to even more serious injury.

Using a taser is well.... dont need to explain it.


Just gotta look at the environment.....If I responded to that, I would cuffed him and dragged him off the street.

Possible more injury > Getting killed/hit by a car (you'd be surprised how dumb people are while driving in my state at least)

[Cyn]

A "cocaine trip"? Are you fucking retarded?

"Who was saying the kid was tasered 19 times?" Yep, you're fucking retarded.

There is no excuse to taser someone who is lying on the ground with a broken back, EVEN ONCE. Every cop should be beaten then thrown into a level 5 for 3 years before even being allowed to apply for the fucking job as far as I'm concerned. And then if they still want to do it, I'm thinking 1 week every six months in isolation should keep them grounded in reality. So fucking sick of stupid pigs that got beaten up too many times in highschool joining the police to take their grudges out on innocent people.

[jmc]

They should have done what the NY cop did to the CM cyclist, that'll teach him to sleep on the pavement.

Also: don't tasers leave marks?

Law enforcement tasers shoot 2-3 projectiles that latch onto the skin of the person on the recieving end. They don't actually get shot 19 times by the projectiles....they just stay in the skin, and the officer can repeatedly pull the trigger to administer shocks.


Oh ya, and I DO NOT carry a taser. They are illegal in the state of Mass. even for law enforcement.

[jmc]

A "cocaine trip"? Are you fucking retarded?

"Who was saying the kid was tasered 19 times?" Yep, you're fucking retarded.

There is no excuse to taser someone who is lying on the ground with a broken back, EVEN ONCE. Every cop should be beaten then thrown into a level 5 for 3 years before even being allowed to apply for the fucking job as far as I'm concerned. And then if they still want to do it, I'm thinking 1 week every six months in isolation should keep them grounded in reality. So fucking sick of stupid pigs that got beaten up too many times in highschool joining the police to take their grudges out on innocent people.

Go deal with a crackhead (or a drunk), who isn't to happy seeing you around.....then see what he says to you before calling someone retarded. Thanks.

[Kuya]

Law enforcement tasers shoot 2-3 projectiles that latch onto the skin of the person on the recieving end. They don't actually get shot 19 times by the projectiles....they just stay in the skin, and the officer can repeatedly pull the trigger to administer shocks.

Well if that's the case, then the kid receiving more than 1 shock is not inconceivable, and well, i'd consider it likely, and i've never had my back broken, but i imagine it would be an excruciating feeling, and if someone tried to handcuff me and drag me off, i'd probably trow a mayor tantrum which would no doubt force the cops to further fuck up my day.

[Cyn]

I've dealt with both, and honestly if you think someone lying on the ground on the highway is a threat worthy of tasing... I don't know, this kind of shit just really pisses me off. I've interacted with many police officers in my time, and from my experience at least 9 in 10 North Carolina police officers are not even qualified to be janitors.

I can't help but dwell on the cocaine trip comment though... I'd love to see the propaganda they shove down your throat in academy, I bet it would supply me with endless entertainment.

[jmc]

I've dealt with both, and honestly if you think someone lying on the ground on the highway is a threat worthy of tasing... I don't know, this kind of shit just really pisses me off. I've interacted with many police officers in my time, and from my experience at least 9 in 10 North Carolina police officers are not even qualified to be janitors.

I can't help but dwell on the cocaine trip comment though... I'd love to see the propaganda they shove down your throat in academy, I bet it would supply me with endless entertainment.

Propaganda? lol

In the academy, they showed me how to evaluate a threat and more times then not...thinking someone under the influenc of a narcotic, was a threat to me has saved my life 4 times in my short career so far. 3 shootings, and 1 attempted stabbing..... so i'm sorry if I think crackheads are bad people lol


*also* if you read some of my other posts..... you wouldve noticed, that I agree the tasering was uncalled for.

[Correction]

I'd love to see the propaganda they shove down your throat in academy.

I'd begin to wonder if you'd know propaganda if you really saw it, since the only source of your ire can't rationally be a story from http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ a publication that 5 minutes of casual perusal will reveal is horridly anti-law enforcement biased and whose primary sources on the '19 times' allegations are the kid's aunt and dad.

Failing that test you've clearly got some axe to grind and jmcgarrell is not the one to grind it against.

I've interacted with many police officers in my time

Hmmm.....

So fucking sick of stupid pigs that got beaten up too many times in highschool joining the police to take their grudges out on innocent people.

HMMMMMM..........

[Khamsin]

I mentioned this before, why 19 times?

Because he was unresponsive after the first 18.

As for why the cops would do this to someone laying there injured with a broken back... the cops don't know what they're getting into when they go out there.

All they knew was some guy was stumbling around out there, and as has been mentioned, he could have been on drugs or a psycho or any number of things. When they found him laying there, yes you might assume that falling is a good assumption, but likely nobody knew his condition until the EMT got there and assessed it. The cops aren't doctors. They're just trying to make sure its safe for everyone else to get in and help, and they're not about to let a medic go assist him without investigating him, first.

You see a guy lying on the ground, mumbling incoherently after having been called out there by someone who reported him stumbling around and looking incoherent in the first place... what exactly are your first assumptions?

If you were to call a cop to say someone broke into your house, the moment they arrive they'll probably treat you like a suspect, too, until they've determined you're safe and the real owner.

As for tasers, I wouldn't get so butthurt about them. They're meant as a safe, nonabusive method of subduing someone, unlike billy clubs or guns.

[Cyn]

My source of information is from having actually used drugs for many years. Are you going to sit there and seriously pretend that you know more about it than me based on what you learned in a classroom? Give me a fucking break. I know that you're a cop, and not a beat cop based on previous posts by you, but I seriously hope you're not in narcotics based on you defending this dude for saying something so retarded. Cocaine is not a trip, nor does it alter your mind enough to make you violent if you're not normally inclined towards it.

[Cyn]

Safe is fucking relative. Applying high voltage to the human body causes uncontrollable muscle spasms... in the case of someone with a broken back, even a single tase could be enough to cause massive damage.

[Shuemue]

My source of information is from having actually used drugs for many years. Are you going to sit there and seriously pretend that you know more about it than me based on what you learned in a classroom? Give me a fucking break. I know that you're a cop, and not a beat cop based on previous posts by you, but I seriously hope you're not in narcotics based on you defending this dude for saying something so retarded. Cocaine is not a trip, nor does it alter your mind enough to make you violent if you're not normally inclined towards it.

You're a fucking idiot. You haven't done many drugs if you aren't aware of these things.

And yeah, I was probably doing drugs before you even hit puberty.

[Cyn]

And you've never dealt with american police, what makes you a fucking expert?

[Moridam]

(you'd be surprised how dumb people are while driving in my state at least)

Dumb drivers exist everywhere, sadly. Massachusetts has its own special brand of crazy when it comes to driving, but I've encountered just as many horrible drivers down here. The main difference is, the mistakes of bad drivers down here take three times longer than they would up north. Everything in the South goes at such a leisurely pace. It's infuriating.

[evilpaul]

I'd wager that the whole reason that he got tased was his refusal to comply with cops. Tasers might be the better method of subduing someone who's badly injured rather than just grabbing him while he's struggling, causing his back to be injured further by thrashing about.

Even if that's not true in the slightest, saying "kill cops" near cops is a dumbass move at best.

The whole thing is bullshit. "Pain compliance", a.k.a. torture by the state shouldn't be tolerated in a free society.

Don't 'hop to' to follow orders like an obedient slave fast enough? Electric torture for you until you do. Or you're dead. Or if you're unable to do so, so you get electric torture until they get bored or somebody shows up with a video camera to record their abuse. Then your stupid cow fellow citizens will laugh about it on Youtube and say the police acted properly.

Police got tasers by claiming, "Oh, well if a suspect has a knife wouldn't it be better if we taser the guy and cause some pain but no permanent damage instead of shooting and killing him?"

In practice, they use them as a first resort against unarmed people in situtations that you would be in jail for behaving the same way. "Oh look, some guy is upset. I'm 'threatened', despite being twice his size, armed with multiple weapons, and with five of my friends. Let me go beat the fuck out of him now!"

Whether the guy really did say "kill cops" or not I don't know. What I do know is that regardless of what the police are seen doing and how outrageous it seems, they always have some excuse for it.

And guess who just happens to get the benefit of the doubt 99% of the time when it's a cop's word versus a normal person's word? Which is exactly why they'll keep right on doing it.

I would imagine that moving a guy with a broken back to cuff him could potentially be a lot worse than zapping him.

Causing muscles all over his body to seize and spasm. Completely screw up someone's central nervous system causing extreme pain and incapacitation...

I'm reminded of a SNL sketch with an impersonated OJ Simpson when he exlains how "you know when you really love someone, you have to kill them."

[Stee]

I love how people are just throwing shit at the cops without all the information.

I'm sure he was tasered a few times but I doubt it was 19, the parents were probably exaggerating the number to draw sympathy from the public which apparently has worked.

As for why the cops even tased him to begin with if you've ever seen a cop video online or whatever they will always tase the person if the guy doesn't follow their directions like putting their hands behind their back or getting up and you can't possibly expect the cops to know the guy has a broken back when he's saying shit like kill cops.