Favorite Villian

[Charismatic]

Even by the standards of those times, Dhaos was better.

[Sagacious Sundi]

There were also Seymour and Shuyin.

Don't forget Promathia!

[Trichocyst]

I will defend FFVI til my last breath. I still kinda think Suikoden II is the better game.

[Hitoshura]

What's more is, the final boss isn't even half as tough as he is.

"It took hundreds to kill me, but I've slaughtered by the thousands. Look at me! I'm the true face of evil!"

Not sure if I am reading it wrong or if you misquoted it... but what? lol

If you mean the thing that game from the Beast Rune and Leon Silverberg then yeah he was a piece of shit.

Also going to add Hitler just because. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_4RvPvTS0

[Bweigelt]

I'm going to have to go with Weigraf. Just a truly tragic character. I'd also say Delita, but I'm don't really think he counts as a villain.

[Trichocyst]

Oh! I'm throwing in Ghaleon from the original Lunar (Sega CD version preferred). I'll never forget some of the monologues from that game. They're burned into my psyche as part of my growing up. Now I just need to find an ISO of Eternal Blue for Sega CD and finish that one.

[Souj]

hmmm guess alot more ff villains wanted to destroy the world than i remember.
didnt seymour just want to become sin though?

[Exoduso]

Seifer was a decent villain as well..

[Sagacious Sundi]

hmmm guess alot more ff villains wanted to destroy the world than i remember.
didnt seymour just want to become sin though?

In order to destroy Spira so the cycle of pain would stop, IIRC.

[Yuri-G]

Now that I think of it, the villains in Shadow Hearts: Covenant were all pretty decent, especially:

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Kato. His part in the story was pretty damn depressing if you think about it.

Damn this thread for making me feel like replaying so many of my old favorite games ; ;

[Alistaire]

Maybe not the greatest but certainly the most unexpected. From Hoshigami:

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Silphatos. Travelled with your party from the start and showed no sign at all of manipulating everyone to break the seal his master was under.

[EternityEnd]

Beatrix from FF9, when she actually was a villain. She's made of win and awesome.

[Yuri-G]

Beatrix from FF9, when she actually was a villain. She's made of win and awesome.

My personal favorite FF character ever (maybe, she'd have to duke it out with Rydia to be sure). Hell yes. Villain or hero, Beatrix is the fucking shit and you do not fuck with her.

Also, I love her hair.

[Feedmenow]

Dracula.

"What is man? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk... HAVE AT YOU!"

And if you don't consider Castlevania RPG enough, then final boss from FF4, forgot the name

[Ophannus]

http://ff6.sm-soft.org/art/kefka3d1.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/...0e3da6.jpg?v=0

[Maxxthepenguin]

Magus. No "Villain" in an RPG has been nearly as interesting and intimidating to me.

[MisterBob]

Kefka sure did kill a lot of people and destroy a lot of life. But he did what he set out to do: Rule the world. He wanted the taste of power infinite and betrayed his emperor to get it. How many villains truly succeed in their goal? He rearranged the world in his distorted image.

Kefka did NOT want to rule the world. He makes this quite clear in his speech before the final battle, claiming he wanted to create a "monument of nonexistence", or something like that. He wanted everything to be consumed by chaos and nothingness, he'd be bored in no time flat if he just ruled the world forever.

[Meian]

Kefka did NOT want to rule the world. He makes this quite clear in his speech before the final battle, claiming he wanted to create a "monument of nonexistence", or something like that. He wanted everything to be consumed by chaos and nothingness, he'd be bored in no time flat if he just ruled the world forever.

Curious. Why did he wait so long to do such a thing then? Weren't you passed out for ... 2 years (can't remember anymore)? Pretty sure after he got the power he could have easily done such a thing.

But I do agree with your last statement about him being bored if he just ruled the world.

Kind of goes along with that thing where you are having more fun achieving something than when you actually achieve it...

[Kaylia]

I have to disagree. A story is a story, it doesn't matter as much if there is prettyful graphics to go with it unless you're easily amused. Look at all the Kefka choosers after all (and Luca Blight even though I haven't played it yet, just seen footage).

I'm not talking about the graphics, but the actual script and how the cutscene are played. I'm not sure Kefka had 30 lines in the whole games, and his only backstory consist of a single answer from the emperor (when Gestalt tells you he was a failed magitek knight experiment)...The World of Balance and the World of ruin was a good idea, but you can't say the concept was detailled either. Break the balances between all 3 statue and the world will be destroyed..it's kinda simple.

Try to compare it to any villains from the psx era (and after), and you will understand why I say they can't be compared. It doesn't mean those game werent good, or that the story was uninteresting, but the storytelling was lackluster.

And for god sake, you can't compare mario/megaman villains to a story driven rpg. Compare the apple with apple at least.

http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_i...creenshot2.jpg
And bowser wasnt always good either. His personality and character changed a lot over the last 20 years.

(and dont tell me its a goomba in disguise)

I liked Vayne, and i almost want to say Kefka is overrated, but i'm afraid i might get castrated.

For his time, I think he was interesting. By today standard, he is overated.

Most people don't know about their nostalgia goggle.

[Kaylia]

Magus. No "Villain" in an RPG has been nearly as interesting and intimidating to me.

Best part about him is when you realize he was Janus. It was kinda obvious, but I had to beat the game a few time before realizing this.

Now that I think of it, the villains in Shadow Hearts: Covenant were all pretty decent, especially:

Spoiler: show

Kato. His part in the story was pretty damn depressing if you think about it.

Damn this thread for making me feel like replaying so many of my old favorite games ; ;

Yeah, he was awesome. I really liked what they did with the villains in SH2. Even if 2 of the 3 "big one" were cliché, the final arc added a really nice touch to the game.

It was also nice to have a villain who didnt have the villain vibe to him. (no white hair, emo poetry, evil laugh..etc)