Dynamis and Limbus Get a Makeover! (08/04/2008)

[Kylen]

It really wouldn't take much, hell for the boots if they just added +1 STR/AGI and maybe 2 more RAcc they'd be the single best WS piece in the slot hands down.

That would make them pretty similar to Skadi Feet - 1 less r.acc but 3 more AGI.

Pretty much every single slot for COR has 1-2 extremely solid pieces from various existing sets, and they'd have to make something kind of broken to one-up them, otherwise it's just going to be sidegrades and swap pieces.

I kinda feel the same way. COR has pretty great DD gear in almost all slots now, between Skadi, Denali, Enkidu's, etc. I'm expecting some nice DD stats from some pieces, notably our AF+1 hat, but I would rather see our AF2 focus more on enhancing our rolls and other abilities somehow. Many other jobs have AF2 that enhances or adds to the effects of various Tier 1 merits, so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see "Phantom Roll Recast -2", "Quick Draw Recast -2", or even "reduces Random Deal recast" on some of our AF2.

[Spider-Dan]

I just dont see it happening. Kinda takes away from the whole idea of what they had Phantom Roll being like.

I think it's a little late for all of that, for two reasons:

1) At this stage in the game, I don't think it's unfair to reward the few, the proud, the endgame corsairs that have stuck it out. It should be obvious that job-bonused-rolls don't break the game, and I think it'd be a nice reward for the endgame CORs to be freed from begging for certain jobs to be invited.
2) The game isn't what it was 2 years ago; DRKs and SAMs may have needed an extra reason for an invite back then, but they certainly don't now (WARs never needed them to begin with).

Its the DD aspect of COR that lacks imo, not our buffs.

The DD aspect of COR is fine. Furthermore, it's absurd to expect relic/AF+1 to outperform existing endgame gear; how many existing pieces of relic (for DDs) are seriously worth fulltiming over abjuration/salvage/skygod/homam/ZNM gear as is? If you really think COR needs help DDing, relic isn't going to solve that problem.

[Callisto]

If I'm going to just make up somewhat off-the-wall shit that I think would be cool, a QD enhancement that added debuff affects to the shots themselves would be really cool to me, i.e. Ice Shot doing Paralyze, Earth doing Slow, etc.

I always wanted status effect bullets for COR too.

[ronin sparthos]

Heres to hoping a piece has Magic Attack Bonus on it... knowing SE, it'd be the relic tricorne x.x

[Tricen]

I think it's a little late for all of that, for two reasons:

1) At this stage in the game, I don't think it's unfair to reward the few, the proud, the endgame corsairs that have stuck it out. It should be obvious that job-bonused-rolls don't break the game, and I think it'd be a nice reward for the endgame CORs to be freed from begging for certain jobs to be invited.
2) The game isn't what it was 2 years ago; DRKs and SAMs may have needed an extra reason for an invite back then, but they certainly don't now (WARs never needed them to begin with).


The DD aspect of COR is fine. Furthermore, it's absurd to expect relic/AF+1 to outperform existing endgame gear; how many existing pieces of relic (for DDs) are seriously worth fulltiming over abjuration/salvage/skygod/homam/ZNM gear as is? If you really think COR needs help DDing, relic isn't going to solve that problem.

Hey now, Viper Bite -> Vorpal Scythe was distortion for some hardcore MBs back in the day. You know, when ppl SCed and MBed shit for exp? You know, thousands of years ago. Before Sagourney Weever. Draganoids, etc.

[Spider-Dan]

That wouldn't be that cool IMO honestly. It takes away the idea of you needing to use a specific roll based on your party setup, things would go from if you have a bunch of SAMs and WARs, maybe Samurai/Warrior's is good to basically use Chaos/Hunter's regardless of party setup.

See, I'd look at it as, "I get to pick the best rolls for the situation, regardless of who is in my party," instead of, "I'm going to use these two rolls because these are the jobs I got."

[Deader2818]

I think it's a little late for all of that, for two reasons:

1) At this stage in the game, I don't think it's unfair to reward the few, the proud, the endgame corsairs that have stuck it out. It should be obvious that job-bonused-rolls don't break the game, and I think it'd be a nice reward for the endgame CORs to be freed from begging for certain jobs to be invited.
2) The game isn't what it was 2 years ago; DRKs and SAMs may have needed an extra reason for an invite back then, but they certainly don't now (WARs never needed them to begin with).


The DD aspect of COR is fine. Furthermore, it's absurd to expect relic/AF+1 to outperform existing endgame gear; how many existing pieces of relic (for DDs) are seriously worth fulltiming over abjuration/salvage/skygod/homam/ZNM gear as is? If you really think COR needs help DDing, relic isn't going to solve that problem.

For a lot of higher tier stuff, IE Sky gods, jailers, HNM, Omega, Ultima, COR DD does lack.

For merits, Salvage, regular Limbus zones and city Dynamis, COR DD pretty good. I just want to to be better for more higher tier stuff instead of having to /WHM or /RDM.

As far as gear lowing the recast of rolls and such, dont see it happening. Thats what group one merits are for. Not only on COR, but for all other jobs as well.

As a whole, most AF and Relic for DD jobs have always been bad, save for a few pieces here and there.

It would be nice to have an Enhances Quick Draw that adds another shot though.

[Callisto]

See, I'd look at it as, "I get to pick the best rolls for the situation, regardless of who is in my party," instead of, "I'm going to use these two rolls because these are the jobs I got."

I got that part, but then it's basically an issue of COR being like BRD in that you use 3 songs out of 100, because in 95% of situations the best rolls are going to be the same thing. At least now there's occassionally going to be a situation where something might outdo Chaos/Hunter's in meripo and I may have a reason to switch things up, were the current limitations taken off of PR I would just see it being like BRD where you just sing the same 3 songs and let the rest rot.

[Cutriss]

If I'm going to just make up somewhat off-the-wall shit that I think would be cool, a QD enhancement that added debuff affects to the shots themselves would be really cool to me, i.e. Ice Shot doing Paralyze, Earth doing Slow, etc.

I always wanted status effect bullets for COR too.

Like the Blast Gun/Blaze Gun/Glacier Gun in FFT - hits the mob and then does a Fire II or something nifty just for some extra damage, but nothing outclassing a mage casting Fire II. I'd think along the lines of elemental ninjutsu:ichi damage.

[LD]

Hey now, Viper Bite -> Vorpal Scythe was distortion for some hardcore MBs back in the day. You know, when ppl SCed and MBed shit for exp? You know, thousands of years ago. Before Sagourney Weever. Draganoids, etc.

The before time, the long-long ago.






I had to.

[Alistaire]

or "Blue Magic Set Points +5" on the /drool side.

Which would unequip those points worth of spells anytime you macroed out of the gear or got stripped by a mob.

[Max™]

True, it would be pretty funny actually.

[LD]

Which is why we bitch about assimilation being only 1 point each. BLU points on equipment would be tits, but it brings up a an issue BLUs only normally have to deal with when going into level capped areas (or deleveling assim, but who the fuck would do that?) The other stats on the piece would have to be good enough to wear nearly fulltime, otherwise it'd be worthless since reequipping gives a 1 minute down time.

[Callisto]

Which is why we bitch about assimilation being only 1 point each. BLU points on equipment would be tits, but it brings up a an issue BLUs only normally have to deal with when going into level capped areas (or deleveling assim, but who the fuck would do that?)

Me if I keep sucking at BLU

[Purrrfect]

Hey now, Viper Bite -> Vorpal Scythe was distortion for some hardcore MBs back in the day. You know, when ppl SCed and MBed shit for exp? You know, thousands of years ago. Before Sagourney Weever. Draganoids, etc.

I think you mean Vorpal Scythe > Viper Bite. Hard to make a SC the other way.^^

[Toth]

The before time, the long-long ago.






I had to.

I miss the days of MBing Blizzaga II on Cockatrices. That was the way to level XD

[Vail]

some friends and I (group of about 8-9 people) already were talking about spliting cost and doing Xarca, we had interest but the cost was abit of the hurt for some members, now with this: yeah, us and more then likely other small groups: are gonna block the fuck out of your northlands~

[Aksannyi]

I actually got invited to xp on my BLM (without my flag up ... lolwut?) not long ago, and we worked out a MB with Freeze.

Holy shit, when I saw those numbers, I felt like God. I wish I could find groups to do that shit with more often.

[Tarage]

Let me simply say that it would be retarded to give Blu refresh on ANYTHING. The job is already broken enough, giving something like that would kill interest in quite a few other jobs.

If anything, give SMNs Auto Refresh 2. We've earned it.

[vinelle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avr7enrZuJQ


At least we get AF+1 right away. I 100% expected, when relic finally came out, that then SE would be asked "where's the AF+1? (and Relic+1 and accessories)" and they'd reply "Wut."