Dynamis and Limbus Get a Makeover! (08/04/2008)

[Lyramion]

Monk already has it. Its called Dodge (ok not exactly the same, but going with the "other jobs getting your ability") Then again, and ability like that would be decent with the enmity stealing.

Wouldnt that be like comparing sentinel to defender?

[rath]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. There's no real reason not to give other jobs DW (even with FF5 & FFT specifically identifying it with Ninja), but DW isn't so great that it every job could become significantly better if they had it (well, not anymore, anyway). Conversely, the need for (or at least the usefulness of) utsu is nearly ubiquitous, so why ask for it on your own job if you're probably gunna sub NIN anyway? I mean, I'm a MNK (yes, I bet you didn't know that, also parenthesis), I really don't give a shit either way (in fact, it'd be interesting not being the only '1H' job that only gets a defensive advantage from /NIN), but this all seems really stupid to me. I'm not going to minimize the important of Cocoon & Zephyr Mantle (or /RDM, where appropriate), but that doesn't make what I said untrue. Whether they mitigate 'enough' is situational, I guess.

I have never found ZM to be that great personally. I am usually /nin, /thf, or /pld (einherjar multi-mob tank). I will cast ZM before an event starts, if I have it set for trait, but that is all. I would never even consider using it in XP. I have friends that use it like that, and they always require tons of healing if they manage to get hate (tbh, they usually don't take hate), but it sucks up MP if they do. DWing without /nin would be ok I guess, if I didn't use vulcan's+m. grip+1 for /thf, and a shield when /pld.

It would be great on dnc, but I think it would just lead to people whining even more. Then they would buff nin as a sub or something stupid, causing even more whining.

[Delekii]

We are talking about totally different situations here. The only time you use /nin on blu is if you are fighting easy mobs (merits, etc), or tanking. If BLU was to get dual weild naturally they might be able to pull off /war or /thf for damage output in a merit party since we can control burst the same was as a thief does and our dot melee dot alone will not draw hate, but that is the only real time where we use /nin anyway.

If blu could dual weild as /thief, we could get 6str/6vit from weapons compared to 3/3 and defense from sword/shield, or 7str/2vit from staff/grip, along with the ability to TP.

[Shuvo]

-people that sponsor dynamis and buy coins will have 500k more per run to spend on coins
-pressure from buyers asking sellers to lower rates because the overhead went down
-renewed interest for low-man groups who didn't do dynamis before because of the higher price to get in will increase supply

Basically what you're saying is the same as saying if the public found out the cost of oil suddenly got chopped in half that gas stations would be able to hold the same price for gas. lol

Probably will happen initially, then price will slowly raise back up to normal rates once sellers realize that relic people will still buy it anyway.

Don't really wanna argue about why this anology is inaccurate, will just bump this thread in a few months after update to prove my point. <_<

Bump.

Been 3-4months since update and dyna currency is still the same on Sylph server. *^^*

(sorry, cant help myself. >_> For years everyone always argues with me when I start talking FFXI economics ; ; )

*smug*

[Priran]

no one cares

[evilpaul]

Coins still cost the same on Hades.

Of course I'm the only one on Hades not upgrading a relic, so that's probably why.