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  1. #1
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    Fun with the /random system

    Well I was bored this morning and decided to play with the /random system. So basically I did a couple of tests for fun just to see If I could roll the same number twice in a row, or simply roll a 999. I put together a couple of crappy macros consisting of lines with /wait X amount of time and /random. I don't know if anyone has ever really played with the random system before(probably some people who wanted some kind of gain) but I'm sure people have brought in mathematics and whatnot on trying to figure out how the numbers are produced. Unfortunately, I don't really care about all that stuff. I just wanted to see myself roll the same number twice in a row, or roll a 999 so I could feel like a badass. I'm sure we've all rolled a 999 at some point in our playing career(probably amidst spams of /random), but I wanted to do it with a simple macro aimed at specifically rolling that number. I got a little sidetracked with some things and later decided to go beat up my NPC, but I got a few /randoms in for my tests.

    Config's sloppy results:

    Failed attempt #1 for same numbers:
    http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8394/fail1vn8.png

    On the way to go beat up my NPC (Failed attempt #2 at same numbers):
    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6333/fail2v2kg6.png

    After teaching my NPC about leaving the kitchen(jk jk, you know I <3 you Nanako ), and having some breakfast:
    999 attempt #1 = Fail.
    http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3936/ninefailvx8.png

    So I pretty much felt like the /random system took a dump all over my face until a few minutes later when I tried again.

    http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7066/ninewinjl7.png

    Conclusions:

    Well, there really isn't much to conclude. I can't claim that I'm that legendary bastard who's ability to roll the same number twice in a row is on par with the badassery levels of bear wrestling lumberjacks. BUT, I am making small progress in the 999 department (which is pretty neat too, but honestly useless.) The random system isn't as random as it seems, but I think we all sort of knew that anyway. My guess is the numbers simply cycle through from 0-999. Also, I did not alter any numbers or spam until I got these numbers. I set up a pretty basic macro that was: /wait 1.8 /random, that I would hit when the in-game clock struck XX:X1. As of right now I haven't really tested much, but I'll probably play with it some more in the future for fun.

  2. #2
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    My only thoughts on /random is that there should be a chat filter to block it. Nothing like a herd of bored idiots spamming it while waiting for some event to start.

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    Assault armbands for life!

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    Go toy with a Casino and keep hitting 999. You'll get rich in 10min.

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    Slightly off topic but what happens if both players lot the same number when lotting an item? Seen it twice but both times the other was just fooling around and passed it (lotted minute it was up then passed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    Go toy with a Casino and keep hitting 999. You'll get rich in 10min.
    That. For great justice shut down each and every casino on your server, then move to Ramuh and get ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Slightly off topic but what happens if both players lot the same number when lotting an item? Seen it twice but both times the other was just fooling around and passed it (lotted minute it was up then passed)
    Same thing that happens if two people doesn't lot but everyone else passes. It randomly goes to one or the other.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    That. For great justice shut down each and every casino on your server, then move to Ramuh and get ours.
    Well, I'm not very interested in attempting to cheat people out of money, if doing that can be considered so.

    plus, it's not very fun when my 999 macro decides to bend me over

    http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7...5120439qm7.png

    I roll for fun, and you should too.

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    god i hate people who random before/after besieged.

  10. #10
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    I've never seen two people lot the same value, ever. I've been under the assumption that once a number is lotted it is locked out for that item. Much like the only way to lot a 1 (as far as I have seen) is to have someone first lot a 2, same for 999, 998 needs to have been lotted before it.

    Am I just crazy or can someone else confirm this?

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    I'm pretty sure if two people lot the same number it simply resets their lots so they have to lot again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbers View Post
    I've never seen two people lot the same value, ever. I've been under the assumption that once a number is lotted it is locked out for that item. Much like the only way to lot a 1 (as far as I have seen) is to have someone first lot a 2, same for 999, 998 needs to have been lotted before it.

    Am I just crazy or can someone else confirm this?
    I had an incident where I was in a group that was lotting for orb order for a melee KS30 we were doing and myself and another guy lotted the same thing 3 times in a row. It was super weird. No SS unfortunately, so of course poidh applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan View Post
    I'm pretty sure if two people lot the same number it simply resets their lots so they have to lot again.
    Last I knew if two people lotted the same number on any item in treasure pool it went to the person who lotted first. I remember reading this somewhere, but I've never actually seen it occur.

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    Never rolled a 999, 998, 0, or 1 myself.

    I was doing some random spam while bored trying to get people through the Kirin porter, and over 13 rolls got 119 like 8 times which was a little weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubbers View Post
    I've never seen two people lot the same value, ever. I've been under the assumption that once a number is lotted it is locked out for that item. Much like the only way to lot a 1 (as far as I have seen) is to have someone first lot a 2, same for 999, 998 needs to have been lotted before it.

    Am I just crazy or can someone else confirm this?
    My friend and I lotted the same on a Kindred's Seal before, but it was like a 130 so we both got beaten easily by someone else.

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    I've seen 2 people lot the same # on an AF in dynamis, the winner kept changing between the two names randomly every 5-10 seconds. I don't remember if one of them passed or who it dropped to or what.

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    It was Reposado and Echox on DRK body~ I think Repo got it, he lotted second~

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    I had this happen at an ISNM, we were all lotting on a Puk Wing, and my friend & I both rolled the exact same number 400something, so we had the other people pass that beat us, and it dropped to her. She rolled first, so I think that's how it decides. It definitely happens though, I've seen it on lots of other things (like coins in dynamis) but the tieing lots usually don't win so never get to see who it drops to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clynt
    I've seen 2 people lot the same # on an AF in dynamis, the winner kept changing between the two names randomly every 5-10 seconds. I don't remember if one of them passed or who it dropped to or what.
    When my assault static /randomed for who uses armband ages ago, me and 2 others (or was it three? I have that screenshot somewhere...) all rolled the same number.

    Additionally, I've seen two people lot the same number in Dynamis. Only the first lotter's name showed up as the leader, though, and he's the one that also got it.

  20. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreguh View Post
    god i hate people who random before/after besieged.
    http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3899/image014cz6.jpg

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