BZ Zerg Build Questions

[Nameless]

Yes, it does stack with Jump and High Jump. Tho there is still a delay that you would rather not use it.

[jfive]

guess perhaps i should. I'll level it up soon, then do some testing.

[vagus]

Hmm. I always thought Ridill was 2nd best weapon, now i might have to buy a merc. kris. Very good thread and can't wait for more #'s.

[Dowzer]

Yes, it does stack with Jump and High Jump. Tho there is still a delay that you would rather not use it.

Yeah, definitely stay away from Jump and High Jump. High Jump can drop enmity and hate WILL shift to another peaking DD, but it's still a waste really.

I only have 15% but it still performs, I'm lacking P/A Helm, Speed Belt, Dusk+1, Bloodbead/Blitz, Ritter Gorget, and Fenrir's stone. Everything else is pretty upto snuff: Wyvern earring/targe, Dusk hands/legs/feet, Gigant, Cassie, BQ Ring, Swift, Rosenbogen, Haub/SH, PCA... Sable cuisses will be paired with a Dusk Jerkin when I get a P/A Helm.

HP tops at around 1700 with Carbonara, 2000+ with a solid Drain II.

The first time I tried it was on DL. Haste/SV March/lolMinuet/Carbonara...The second time I forgot to record it. I brought a Dark Staff and Drain II broke me over 2100. DL was down just as BW ran out.

With BRD SV Mad and Feint, accuracy wasn't an issue even with carbonara when I used it on Kirin...Paired with SV Marchx2/Haste, I only lived 17 sec. Drain II was horrible, Kirin easily resisted it. I pulled hate nearly instantly and the lack of /nin or any cures made me useless pretty quickly.

Here's the video for the first DL I used it on. I completely forgot to use Drain II...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU7I6WOMGII

And my sky LS's first Kirin Burn, pardon the shitty music. Aaand shitty editing, fast-forward to 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsgvtrD2rPI&feature=user

There's a ton of improvement I can make and I'm already pulling hate from a Cure bombed Faith Bagh MNK/DRK, I should really start parsing it too...But I'm the only zerg DRK aside from MNK/DRKs, so there's not much to compare with in terms of KC>Octave>MKris>Ridill>BZ in any of my LS.

You better start leveling that SJ then, because jump and high jump DO stack with SE+BW, unless it was ninja nerfed.

Lemme specify here. Weapons will DA/TA/Multi proc with Jump/HJump, Souleater will work, but Blood Weapon won't replenish the lost HP. I don't know if replenished HP before I tried, maybe it was nerfed...?

[kayn]

Yes, it does stack with Jump and High Jump. Tho there is still a delay that you would rather not use it.

I would think the 5% haste from the wyvern earring alone would make /drg worth it (for 1h zerging)

[jfive]

Lemme specify here. Weapons will DA/TA/Multi proc with Jump/HJump, Souleater will work, but Blood Weapon won't replenish the lost HP. I don't know if replenished HP before I tried, maybe it was nerfed...?

That's what i meant about the lost hp to additional effect gain hp. would bring you down to yellow hp pretty fast in bw mode.

[Nameless]

Oh yea, /drg for the 5% haste and additional acc. I do use jump and high jump, but i do it in the end of the zerg not in the first 30 sec.

[Massimo]

6% Haste, Wyvern Targe.

[jfive]

idk, imma stick with /mnk for hp bonus and focus. jump/hj with low hp seems almost not worth it.

[Nameless]

I find the +25 HP shield do more than 1% haste for me that's why I didn't count it. Unless you are talking about lvl 72 only.

[jfive]

72 onry ya. and I use ritter shield for 10 hp. had a wyvern targe but sold it. I have a velocious belt so I'm picking up some slack there. Not many options for 72 DRK, but its still fun and free.

[Tubbers]

Lemme specify here. Weapons will DA/TA/Multi proc with Jump/HJump, Souleater will work, but Blood Weapon won't replenish the lost HP. I don't know if replenished HP before I tried, maybe it was nerfed...?

That's news to me :l I remember Sesshoumaru espousing /DRG because Jumps would in fact drain back the HP.

[Dowzer]

If I don't crack Chainspell on Bune I'll try SEBW Jump just for ya, but I know I'm right.

idk, imma stick with /mnk for hp bonus and focus. jump/hj with low hp seems almost not worth it.

Die and give me your velocious belt.


Fuckin seriously...The HP Bonus is only 60 HP. I'll throw in that stupid Ritter Shield and Wrestler's earring.

HP+100 =/= Haste+6%

News to me...Give me that fucking belt and helm.



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[jfive]

Die? ; ;

not sure the total accuracy you get from SJ drg vs JA Focus on monk. I basically solo'd the KH13 mission of ToAU had a rdm and a whm spam cure me. Was pretty funny countering w/ SE on, and intimidation procs were very frequent on it. Got DRG to 28 recently, I may finish it this weekend if olympics/ farming zeni don't get in the way.

Anyhow for head choices. Eitherrrrr farm Biast or farm zeni and spam cerberus t4 for aurum head. Aurum head > P helm. Other head pieces for 72. Assjammer and O hat- depending on which you want more. Haste/Accuracy/HP+.

[Massimo]

^ This, only with less death and more cake.

/DRG is so much better than /MNK for an Octave DRK. You can't afford not to level it.

Edit: Fuck that shit, I'm too slow.

Also, +10 accuracy from /DRG.

[jfive]

hmmm.
focus is 20 i think and SE acc is 20 as well.
well see. ill do some besieges with /mnk and /drg and parse.

[Massimo]

Assuming Scwall is correct about the 60 HP difference, you'll only really be looking at 70 HP vs 6% Haste, which should be obviously that /DRG is the better choice.
Don't throw in Wrestler's earring, since it's worse than Cassie/Intruder.

[jfive]

appears so that /mnk = 60 hp. w/ earring and shield = 100 hp

im so kicking myself that i sold my wyvern targe. recently got dusk feet +1 but sold them since I have aurum now.

not gonna waste time camping intruder earring. too much stuff on my plate ingame as is.

[Dowzer]

Heh Sorry I just really want those items! /envy

Used my 2HR so I'll try Jump again later, though it's really a moot point.

I joined a popular ZNM LS on Quetz but I haven't been attending a lot lately. Aurum armet is the best I can use, for sure. I'll also rotate Scorpion Harness/Dusk Jerkin for accuracy issues, both will be used with Sable cuisses. (Been holding onto the cuisses forever)

I usually always use Carbonara and seem to be very accurate with SV Mad with Feint, I hardly missed Kirin at all.

This setup has been good so far...It's what I use.

http://www.ffxiah.com/members/?q=item_sets&set_id=26205
Haste +15%
HP +272
Accuracy +28

[Tubbers]

Heh Sorry I just really want those items! /envy
Used my 2HR so I'll try Jump again later, though it's really a moot point.

It's possibly, but very unlikely, that it's worth jumping as you're using other abilities, e.g. SE>BW>Jump>High Jump>Melee. I agree though, I wouldn't use jumps at all unless it was proven that it is better to do so, I was just pointing out before that he said, "if it worked I'd already have leveled /DRG" so he should get on top of leveling it