Bismarck Drama End PLS

[Seraphus]

Aselin wins the internets.

[Novalye]

Not like we could claim Fafnir over KoreDeOwari's Sub-NASA Bot anyway, but eh.

Not like you could have killed, anyways. Then again, I guess anything is possible when you throw 30+ people at it.

[Seraphus]

My LS didn't even have 30+ lol the most we ever took to an event was like 24 or some shit

[Wenslydale]

Well, don't keep us in suspense! Details! Was it secret plans? Nuclear Secrets maybe? The true assassin of JFK? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Novalye]

I'd like to refer back to your LS site, the application section. I'd say just about damn near every single application was [accepted].

[Apessius]

Aselin, I love you.

[Seraphus]

Yeah a lot of which were eventually kicked lol and I never did the work to delete applications that were old. so yeah

The LS roster, I believe, may have had 32 names on it or some shit like that though when everything happened. A lot of which weren't ever rly on

[Wenslydale]

Aselin, I love you.

Back off! That's MY MAN! I called dibs on him a couple posts back.

[Novalye]

The LS roster, I believe, may have had 32 names on it or some shit like that though when everything happened. A lot of which weren't ever rly on

If you say so.

[Seppuku364]

Well all i gotta say is ApathyLS was just full of bull and everyone on Bismarck knew it if u didn't u were so stupid its not even funny. Lasky was inexperienced and did not know what he was doing we all know that, i even think lasky knows that. For how much i hate and despise Lasky i probably gonna take his side on this one. Yes i was a member of KDO which doesn't really matter atm because KDO broke and isnt coming back. But let just say every leader in apathy was stupid and does not need to lead a LS anyway so i am glad you guys broke your just saving your self time and effort and even more BS by by staying together so Lasky Goodbye no hard feelings and remember Tomahawk didn't help u do a 60sec Kirin ok >.>. and btw omegapaco=retarted ass hoe

[Jinchuuriki]

Dudes COME ON this ish been going on for almost a month now whats done is done..

No need to put ppl on blast anymore BOTH sides... everyone went their ways....

the truth was found LONG time ago.. why keep feeding the engine more fossil fuel...

the story between helel and melita has been uncovered, they messed with other Linkshells, hopped servers to screw others, came to ours and now look what happend..

by all means the ppl we should really be yelling at is them 2 for tryn to shut down lasky like that and trying to get away with murder

"yeah im stepping in on the game now because im tired of it and want this topic put to rest 6 feet under"

[Seraphus]

Tomahawk didn't help u do a 60sec Kirin ok >.>

I said one of our LS members did Tomahawk because they claimed it helped rofl.

I dont even have tomahawk meritted :/

And nah, I'm not an inexperienced leader. I just like giving that impression at times.

[Novalye]

And nah, I'm not an inexperienced leader. I just like giving that impression at times.

lol? Why? Enjoy looking like a dumbass or something?

[Wenslydale]

I just have to say, before I go to bed, This Thread had not disappointed! Thanks Guys, keep it up!

[Seraphus]

lol? Why? Enjoy looking like a dumbass or something?

Reminiscient of the days when I was new to endgame ;;

[Seraphus]

Yes, Aselin has been there for me ever since my first day on Bismarck.

Aselin, you're amazing, and you truely are a great friend! (*'-')

And Omega, just go ahead and post it. The only difference between here and on vent is...

omg wait for it...

here it comes!!!

I can eviscerate every damn thing you say to try and back yourself up here

You'd be better calling it quits now, buddy.

I guess he took my suggestion. Hasn't posted since I wrote that (with the exception of a post 3 minutes later which he probably was writing as I posted)

Possible to get a lock, move to spam, or deletion? Or do we wanna keep this one going?

[Apessius]

Sleep, F5 in the morning!
Then again, its pretty well established what went on here.

[Wenslydale]

You can't lock this! Not yet at least!

[Aselin]

As a favor for Omegapaco, after having talked to him in Vent tonight, I decided to put up two recordings of Lasky here recorded from the Apathy Vent. I also transcribed them to text so yo know what's being said in Vent. The discussions below are as-is; it contradicts what Lasky has told me in tells regarding the merge with KoreDeOwari. In actuality, it seems it was more of his idea than Paco's.

Also, Paco's reasons for leaving PCKU were made more clear to me in which they were in regards to an argument he had with another LS member.

I apologize for that.

Discussing the merger with KoreDeOwari:
(Paco, Lasky, and Kyuubi on Vent)
[MP3] : http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...discussion.mp3

[html]: http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...rge_convo.html

[RTF]: http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...erge_convo.rtf

Choice quotes from the discussion.

... this...

The LS roster, I believe, may have had 32 names on it or some shit like that though when everything happened. A lot of which weren't ever rly on

... contradicts this...

Kyuubi:

I'm going to say maybe we can each pick 3 sacks each.

Lasky can pick 3 sacks.

Borin can pick 3 sacks that he wants, you know.


Lasky:

That's actually not fair because since he gets to pick 3 out of 16, 17, and I have to pick 3

out of 50.

Kyuubi:

Well, maybe 4, 2 then.

But remember we have to--

Lasky:

But, let me see if he agrees with everything first.

Kyuubi:

Alright, go ahead.

Lasky:

But we're waiting for him to put the names of the 16, 17 people.

Kyuubi:

I would like to know them more.

Discussing the details of the merger with KoreDeOwari regarding members:
(Paco, Lasky, and Kyuubi on Vent)
[MP3] : http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...scussion_2.mp3

[html]: http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...e_convo_2.html

[RTF]: http://aselin.octoberasian.com/other...ge_convo_2.rtf

Choice quotes regarding Novalye and botting.

Lasky:

Here's the thing: Borin needs us actually more than we need him.

Kyuubi:

Basically.

Kyuubi: [same time as Lasky]

Because we know it, because his linkshell--

Lasky:

Because we know how to beat it--

But, his linkshell is dying. He's too lazy to rebuild it.

So, he needs us more than we need him.

Kyuubi:

Because we have the people, we don't have the bots.

Nova is one of them.

She probably won't--

... no she won't even come, and if she does--

Well, see, if we want the bot, we going have to have her in there because it's Daak's bitch.

So, got to suck it up for that one, and that's the only one that you have to worry about.

But, she's a good black mage. She's just... I don't know... talks alot.

Paco:

That's, that's nothing bad.

What do mean? Mean talk a lot of shit? A lot of bad things--?

Kyuubi:

Nah, nah, she just gets annoying you know; you know she's one of those people that just sort of like [changes tone of voice] "Shut up!" like "I wants some quiet."

Make your own conclusion from there. You have pretty much both sides of the argument now.

I'm done posting here.

[Rivieras]

LONG POST - BE WARNED

Before anyone gets all uppity about a misspelled word, fragment or otherwise in my response I can tell you that you can lick my left nut, because that's about as important as your opinion matters.

Background - I joined Apathy 2-3 months prior to breaking; had left a previous shell due to restructuring (yes it does happen) and was not interested in part of the new command leading it.

Prior to joining Apathy I did not know anyone within the shell, Lasky had bumped into me in Campaign, we made fun of our Gallant +1's and went on our way. I inquired from time to time about his shell, what the purpose, plan etc. Everything seemed to be in order from what I had seen and had not heard any problems; I had heard about him and did some inquiries. Eventually I asked him what the reason was that he was on Bismarck. And while I don't have SS's; personally there was no reason for me to take any at the time, his story was as follows.

Lasky was Jared from Fairy - He was "moved" to fairy by Foolish because it was "Foolish's" plan to steal their current LS bank, transfer with Lasky and finish their relics. Lasky said he would not have any part of that plan and returned the LS bank to their old shell, yet decided to stay on Bismarck. Lasky reiterated that he knew Foolish and that he was just misguided but not an overall bad guy.

Not very believable but hey, you have to give people a chance and as I wasn't expecting anything from them, all I'd lose was time.

Fast forward a few months and I've already suspected Lasky was up to something, just his words on vent the way he would talk. It was more of a person trying to both convince themselves and others of his goals. Those being relics, AF2/Hydra etc, the usual things people want in the game. I had no problem with that due to items being the main reason people play.

Fast forward to the past few weeks, I was logging when I hear that Lasky has Helels account, that Helel had given it to him. I can say that it must not have been minutes before Lasky had already entered Helels account and was going through the mules etc, counting off everything that was in them. Personally that felt rather odd and I immediately knew what was going to happen. End of the night, I log off and go to sleep only to log on the next morning to find out that Lasky had split items between Omega/Jin and possibly Foolish (this wasn't confirmed).

FYI this is all going on in Vent so we're hearing peoples words and the tone in their voice. Now mind you it's not the same as a face to face conversation but at least it gives you a feel of what might be going on in the persons head.

From my understanding at that point Helel had never told Lasky to give anything away, he'd not even mentioned selling the account which was Lasky's idea. Later that morning Helel had logged on to find his account banned and Lasky still holding the items. Items which were later traced to being sold by Bebadora (needs confirmation from FFXIAH Fairy by Helel, pic already taken and saved).

It was at this point that Apathys members left including myself and went to join Omegas new social shell to try to sort everything out. After this point the main goal was to restore Helels account and find out why Lasky did it. Even having Lasky on vent with EVERYONE, Foolish, Mileslong, Omegapaco, Helel, Ifritspartacus, possibly Bebadora. Many others can vouch Foolish saying:

"Even if there was a way, I wouldn't help you now"
followed
"Lasky just sent me a tell saying 'Help me'"

I apologize for the long story, but as I consider Paco a very respectable and very nice guy I'm not about to let his name become trash.

While the above is my own view of the situation as it happened from an outside perspective. I figure it's about as unbiased as any post can really be.

Lasky - You're a weak con artist, apparently this is the third time you've tried to do this to a shell, the bank, accounts etc. Foolish himself explained your past to us on Vent, while you were probably still on the server listening. You've tried to con people over and then tried to destroy other peoples names just so you could keep your own.

If you had kept your mouth shut and stopped pestering the other people this would have just dissapeared. Eder and everyone else had already said that this was dead drama and move on. At any rate, you decided to screw yourself in the end.

Bebadora - personally i couldn't say anything to you without it being a personal attack. Mainly because for a person calling another a loot whore takes balls, which I'm sure you have considering you keep trying to pass yourself off as a REALLY Androgynous Boy George.

From my understanding during the 4+ months that Apathy was alive you received a Homam Body and Perseus Harpe, then you bitched because you couldn't lot on a Heca harness and when asked about helping on a quick Xolotl your responses was "I already have what I want from him, I don't care about that guy anymore".

This on top of the fact that you salivated over the THF Gloves. And yes Paco got them, he deserved them, he was at every event that I was and more than others. You say you work late and yet you didn't contribute as much to the shell.

So tell me this? Give TH4 to a half ass THF that can't turn a COLIBRI with SATA, while I get all my food jacked due to my sidewinders. Or a PLD DD'ing that is keeping hate better than you.

Or give TH4 to a person that's at every event, helps LS members get to sea, clear missions and farm items, is main Dynamis puller and main THF on everything that requires THF.

You be the judge.