Post pictures of your gear IV: Oh hey, you're a Paladin too?

[Tsuko_Asura]

Dusk Gloves have five Attack on them. I'd say five DEX vs. five Attack is pretty damn even, and with the added Haste on top of that, the Dusk are clearly better.

Unless the number of attack is at least double the available accuracy, I don't even give it a glance. That's just upon the threshold for a dual-wielder, and not even the case with a two-handed user. Askar still wins in that regard, IMO.

[FailureMidgard]

Not running slow is a decent benefit too! I'm pretty sure over the course of a merit party where a bard sleeps a mob too far away, that alone will beat out 1% haste for total damage done. And if you switch every time, wow you are crazy OCD!

I use Dusk, but would likely switch to Askar if I had 'em.

[Veyron]

Love and Justice Torques are the only ones that occasionally really throw me for a loop on what to use vs Gorget.

I would think since Love is 6.3 + 2.5 Acc (8 or 9 depending on even/odd Dex) that the bonus to acc/WS mods would win out.

Most torques its 6~7 Acc vs 10 Acc and the first hit Dmg boost, so it's easier to decide since 10 > 6~7.

For Justice, see Ruke's math.. somewhere. But if I remember right, it came out to +34~ Dmg on Ws with Torque and +40 something with Gorget? #'s may be off, but Gorget came out on top even with Justice's stats on YGK.

[Vigilia]

Never posted in the BG gear threads yet so here goes... here's some of my jobs anyway.

My 3 most used SCH gear sets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...twhore/sch.jpg
Didn't bother adding in enfeebling setups or dark magic as there's no new gear in them, just the above re-organized with added appropriate torques and corresponding HQ staves. Oh and Stoneskin setup but that's just the same as the generic enhancing except with Ixion cloak for body and MND for rings. The blue earring in nuking gear setup is Desamillion (+15MP/+2INT).

My favourite job, DRG. Omega can go die in a pool of aids and stop giving us double heads though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...twhore/drg.jpg
In another two or three Einherjars I'll be able to pick up an Omega ring and then I'll toss Tamas and go pick up a Rajas. Figured it'll be a good compromise to keep most of my jobs happy. I'm addicted to leveling so the more 75 jobs I get the more I find myself making compromises. The WS setup is specifically Wheeling Thrust setup, for Penta I leave on a bit more accuracy, Love Torque and use Heca hands instead of Alkys.

Bard, geared up for Salvage, some lesser events and that's pretty much it... Haidate, swift belt, dusk hands/feet and walmart turban for when I have to spam lullabies or some such in Dynamis/Einherjar.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rd_generic.jpg

Generic PLD/NIN setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...twhore/pld.jpg
Aside from the lack of red-ness (Homam pants/boots and Baha mask wru!), some HQ goodies like Hades Earring and Lamian Kaman +1 I'm actually pretty happy with my PLD. Warwolf belt, Harmonia's torque for +enmity macro, got a bunch of +shield gear for those oh shit situations and shadows (Boxer's, AF+1 feet, Koenig head) and a reasonable magic def setup (Resentment cape, all the I.R. bits, Merman rings etc, Crimson cuisses for kiting) so it functions fine for what it's meant to do.

lolPUP, my campaign bish, lvl 72 at the moment. Got Hermes Sandals for MPKing /BRD bots... I mean for kiting the beastmen hordes. Considering it never gets party invites I stopped bothering about proper gear at around lvl 65 and have just been going all-out on Campaign. I'm usually /WHM so hence Ethereal.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ore/lolpup.jpg
That's not an NQ Amemet, it's a Bellicose Mantle. Best a PUP can get.

[Zidiane]

How come you don't use a P.Tathlum on sch for ele?

[Darkevolution]

For Justice, see Ruke's math.. somewhere. But if I remember right, it came out to +34~ Dmg on Ws with Torque and +40 something with Gorget? #'s may be off, but Gorget came out on top even with Justice's stats on YGK.

Would you use J. Torque for Guillotine or Snow Gorget?

[bunz]

SAM TP:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...abun/samtp.jpg

TP on low-evasive/def mobs (G. Colibri, Salvage, etc.):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...bun/samtp2.jpg

WS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...abun/samws.jpg
SAM is relatively new, zero Shura pieces so Kabuto is still out of reach

DEF:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/c1nnabun/def.jpg

Penta Thrust:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/sampenta.jpg
Couple points; still working spear skill and unlocking Gondo-Shizunori at the same time (236--almost capped) so never really optimized this--B. Kotes outperform AF+1 kotes? Byakko's Haidate or Usukane Hizayoroi? Also, before Tomoe, it was all bout Engetsuto. I never saw any Gondo-Shizunori talk whatsoever =\ Even now, Gondo is almost as good as Tomoe, no?

DRK TP:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...abun/drktp.jpg

Guillotine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...abun/drkws.jpg
Lookin for a Triumph Ring

DRK magic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/drkmagic.jpg


That's it, all me. in a major way. First time posting long time lurkin. Have RDM and PLD too but those aren't too great yet, I'll eventually get to postin those.

[Vigilia]

How come you don't use a P.Tathlum on sch for ele?

I do when I can but usually I'm 80/80, 80/80, 80/80 and 66/70 on storages. I have a P.tathlum and a bunch of other gear on mules or on storage NPCs (like all my non-rare/ex PLD gear, half my instruments, SMN|DRG AF2 sets etc.), when I know that for a week or two I don't need xxx job but I'll be using another job a lot I'll get them. 9 times out of 10 I don't have it though as I get 5mins warning to go swap to a job and make my way somewhere.

[Jedimasta]

I'm guessing you double posted your DRK Magic set unless you like casting in slow gear and no AF helm.

[bunz]

lol yeah, fixed

[Siralin]

Have RDM and PLD too but those aren't too great yet, I'll eventually get to postin those.

Your PLD can't be that bad...You have the important Homam pieces.

[richardd]

gearz.

thats quite a good selection you got there, and way to keep a 6 hit on your sam. One question tho, i noticed you pile more STR in your guillo setup. Have you parsed it with more acc gear? I tried using flame/warwolf and triumph earring as well, but got better results with the potent, TOAU ring and assault earring. The peaks were "meh" 2100 occasionally with lucky DA's but the consistency was the highlight of it. Have you gotten the same consistent results with the extra STR? Maybe its just an elvaan thing lol.. (i normally eat cheap foods too, like meat chiefkabobs)

[avelle]

thats quite a good selection you got there, and way to keep a 6 hit on your sam. One question tho, i noticed you pile more STR in your guillo setup. Have you parsed it with more acc gear? I tried using flame/warwolf and triumph earring as well, but got better results with the potent, TOAU ring and assault earring. The peaks were "meh" 2100 occasionally with lucky DA's but the consistency was the highlight of it. Have you gotten the same consistent results with the extra STR? Maybe its just an elvaan thing lol.. (i normally eat cheap foods too, like meat chiefkabobs)

What did you hit for 2100 Richardd? I've been feeling pretty meh about my DRK's damage despite gear being pretty decent.

[Zidiane]

I do when I can but usually I'm 80/80, 80/80, 80/80 and 66/70 on storages. I have a P.tathlum and a bunch of other gear on mules or on storage NPCs (like all my non-rare/ex PLD gear, half my instruments, SMN|DRG AF2 sets etc.), when I know that for a week or two I don't need xxx job but I'll be using another job a lot I'll get them. 9 times out of 10 I don't have it though as I get 5mins warning to go swap to a job and make my way somewhere.

Yeah, sorry to be picky XD I know the feeling of zero space D:

[bunz]

thats quite a good selection you got there, and way to keep a 6 hit on your sam. One question tho, i noticed you pile more STR in your guillo setup. Have you parsed it with more acc gear? I tried using flame/warwolf and triumph earring as well, but got better results with the potent, TOAU ring and assault earring.

Thanks man, in all honesty though you caught me slipping. I've always been a fan of Potent Belt for my Guillotine with that setup I posted. Like you said, its soooo much more consistent, and landing all hits is crucial.

The reason I have Warwolf there is b/c I've noticed SAM WS accuracy is just too hax (I used to use Potent for SAM WS as well, only recently did I switch it up) and I know I should reach Guillotine accuracy cap on stuff like G. Colibri--though I've never truly parsed Warwolf (always end up switching to Potent mid-parse b/c of its reliable accuracy consistency).

So to answer your question, Potent Belt has been my tried and true Guillotine waist slot. I've yet to efficiently parse the difference but I've been pondering the benefits of the extra STR (albeit minimal), and the difference in accuracy between the two belts for a 2h weapon wielder isnt' that much. At any rate I do admit it does make a noticeable difference (in favor of Potent) in all my experience during counltess merit sessions at Tandjana Islet Mamool Ja camp, even with +5 acc from Hedgehog Pie.

[richardd]

What did you hit for 2100 Richardd? I've been feeling pretty meh about my DRK's damage despite gear being pretty decent.

it was mostly on puks, but i broke 2k plenty of times on Mamool Blusterer's and Mimers.

Thanks man, in all honesty though you caught me slipping. I've always been a fan of Potent Belt for my Guillotine with that setup I posted. Like you said, its soooo much more consistent, and landing all hits is crucial.

The reason I have Warwolf there is b/c I've noticed SAM WS accuracy is just too hax (I used to use Potent for SAM WS as well, only recently did I switch it up) and I know I should reach Guillotine accuracy cap on stuff like G. Colibri--though I've never truly parsed Warwolf (always end up switching to Potent mid-parse b/c of its reliable accuracy consistency).

So to answer your question, Potent Belt has been my tried and true Guillotine waist slot. I've yet to efficiently parse the difference but I've been pondering the benefits of the extra STR (albeit minimal), and the difference in accuracy between the two belts for a 2h weapon wielder isnt' that much. At any rate I do admit it does make a noticeable difference in all my experience during counltess merit sessions at Tandjana Islet Mamool Ja camp.

Sam acc is different, since its a 1 hit WS, and those get a boost in acc in general, you can pile in as much STR as you want. Guillo is a multi hit which was why i was kinda surprised to see you getting results like that! But hey man, if its workin' keep on doing it :D Maybe i should put more STR in my guillo build for those non-mamool camp situations but i doubt it would help me any. Im the kind of guy who can admit, im never at capped acc, EVER .... (bird camps dont count).

[Crizto]

My 51 WAR. I'm skilling up Great Axe right now. This is just my TP gear, my WS gear is just two STR rings and Vanguard Belt. Next level I'll switch to AF Feet for TP, and at 54 use the AF Gloves for WS.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...826_130802.jpg

[Ruiner]

Brass Grip!

[ninjafox]

It looks like you're inside...

[Avarice]

Crizto examines you.

But yea, pick up a grip and you're set.