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  1. #1321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    those types of people.
    What type of person am I exactly?

    Also, this is you correct? Who the fuck are you to say if Soboro is good or not when your SAM is 37? I believe opinions are usually based off personal experience and if this is your only character; you have no experience using or parsing a Soboro.

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    To suggest you need a job at 75 to understand it or to form an opinion on various gear choices is retarded. Also based on his ffxiah profile he has 2 jobs that would be commonly found in a tp burn merit party so I dare say he has partied against some soboro sams (just a guess as I think anyone with a decent number of merits for 3 jobs would have) so he probably does have some experience there. Then consider the fact that he may have levelled 1, 2 or even all 3 of his jobs with soboro sams, its pretty hard not to encounter atleast several (some multiple times) on the road to 75.

    Also, Soboro even at level 50 doesn't really make you do any more damage than a standard delay/dmg GKT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trime View Post
    Also, Soboro even at level 50 doesn't really make you do any more damage than a standard delay/dmg GKT.
    Soboro averages 2 swings/attack round, a normal GK averages 1.1 with WAR sub(which you should have) pre-brutal. The first comparable great katana is Zanbato+1 at level 61(74 base damage x 1.1 = 81.4, while soboro's 2x 40 = 80). Realistically, soboro will top parse until hagun or onimaru at 72 and 73 respectively, due to fSTR and WS mods bumping up both weapons equally and as such giving nearly twice the bonus to soboro they give to another GK. The obvious downside to soboro is that it feeds the mob TP, which may make it less desirable in some exp situations.. but arguing that it has inferior damage is silly. I'll agree you don't need a job leveled to form an opinion, but I have yet to see Mitsukai post anything accurate so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trime View Post

    Also, Soboro even at level 50 doesn't really make you do any more damage than a standard delay/dmg GKT.

    wut

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    Man, I love how I can voice how I feel about an item and people get so uptight, it's awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Who the fuck are you to say if Soboro is good or not when your SAM is 37?
    Cause my SAM needs to be Lv75 to know how the job works, rite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    if this is your only character
    Good thing it's not~

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    but I have yet to see Mitsukai post anything accurate so..
    Glad to see you still watching over me too.

  6. #1326
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Cause my SAM needs to be Lv75 to know how the job works, rite?
    Where in my post did I say it needs to be 75?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Where in my post did I say it needs to be 75?
    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Who the fuck are you to say if Soboro is good or not when your SAM is 37?
    Leveling jobs comes in two tiers; 37 and 75. When one complains about being "only 37" it becomes inferential that the other meaning is 75.

  8. #1328
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    Right. The fact that we were talking specifically about a level 50 weapon, when your SAM is 37, has nothing to do with it.

    You assumed wrong, buddy.

  9. #1329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Right. The fact that we were talking specifically about a level 50 weapon, when your SAM is 37, has nothing to do with it.
    Well the character we were talking about was Lv62, which is 12 above 50 and on the track to 75. Base assumption and all, bla bla bla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    Well the character we were talking about was Lv62, which is 12 above 50 and on the track to 75. Base assumption and all, bla bla bla.
    Stop leveling melee DD until you can understand how damage is calculated. Use the fucking soboro, christ.

  11. #1331
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    http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...6975/Uhson.jpg

    Ok then well i'm just gonna point out the gear that may look like gimp pieces<.<
    Well yes thats a Merciful Cape, yes i have torques corresponding to the magic, and yes thats a wise strap~

    etc

    Edit: For my Dark Magic setup i use omega/balrahns~

  12. #1332
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    lol, all the arguing about Soboro made me forget this was the pictures of your gear thread until Klien posted.

  13. #1333
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    The guy isn't even using a Soboro... He said in his post that it's a G.M. Uchigatana...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyosak View Post
    The guy isn't even using a Soboro... He said in his post that it's a G.M. Uchigatana...


    But he says in his post that he wants to get a Soboro. God people are fuckin stupid.

  15. #1335
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    Allright... how about them Black Mages? Been meaning to post but... I'm lazy.

    This is how to do it right:

    Standard Nuking:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../FFXI/nuke.jpg
    Swap in Sorcerer's Belt if I don't care about enmity, or Rairin/Hyorin Obis for weather. Uggalepih Pendant goes on at low MP. Prudence torque doesn't fucking exist.


    Lightningday/Iceday Nuking:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/FFXI/day.jpg
    Demon Helm +1 if I don't care about enmity, pendant for low mp. Needs Zenith Mitts +1 :/


    Magic Bursting:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ll/FFXI/mb.jpg
    Ear2 is Static obviously. Same nonsense as above, DH+1 and/or Sorcerer's Belt if I feel like it, pendant at low MP.


    HNM nuking:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/FFXI/acc.jpg
    Prudence Torque wru?? ;_;


    Enfeebling:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/FFXI/enf.jpg
    0/56237395 trying to synth Genie Lappas... only thing I want for this set. Neck is enfeebling torque, back is altruistic, ear2 is Abyssal.


    Dark Magic:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../FFXI/dark.jpg
    Neck is dark torque, ear2 is abyssal, back is merciful. Needs hq hands. Have an Anrin Obi I bring to Dynamis and Apollyon.


    Elemental DOT:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/FFXI/dot.jpg
    This gets me exactly 150 INT. If I ever get prudence torque I can redesign it to drop the Kirin's Pole for elemental staves.


    Stun:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../FFXI/stun.jpg
    Pretty straightforward.


    Curing:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../FFXI/cure.jpg
    Sadly I just don't have space to carry more gear specifically for this, just a mixmatch of stuff from other sets.


    Stoneskin:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ll/FFXI/ss.jpg
    Nothing fancy. Gets me above the cap. Stone gorget been on my wishlist forever but no one ever wants to help with it.


    Resting:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/FFXI/hmp.jpg
    Goliard Chapeau and Oracle's hands don't exist /sigh. Do at least 2 floor 100 runs every week. Star Rings... yeah not a priority. Macro waits 18sec after sitting to swap from idle gear to hmp gear.


    Idle:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../FFXI/idle.jpg
    Again, don't have space to carry random stuff just for this set. Just whatever gear with +MP and no -HP, Terra's Staff for -dmg, Static earring for MDB, Balrahn's Ring for refresh in salvage, and Gaiters for movement.


    So... yeah. Black Mage powa!


  16. #1336
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  17. #1337
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    Nhead >_>?

  18. #1338
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    hardly camped kings, when it dropped lost lot to friend. like i said...if odin would fucking drop n.legs i'd be lotting n.head by now

  19. #1339
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    Might want to get enkidu hands for the 5acc. Also enkidu legs until you get heca subligar.

  20. #1340
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    Homam Corazza instead of Rapparee Harness for TP unless you're during Feint and/or POSITIVE your accuracy is 92%~+.

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