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  1. #21
    Bagel
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    I can hardly wait for meaningful Absolute Virtue discussion.

  2. #22
    Relic Weapons
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    Probably buffing JoL to counter the weakened AV?

  3. #23
    House Azazael
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    I would rather they just come out and say "Here is the trick" than nerf them.

  4. #24
    Relic Horn
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    In response to these events, we have determined that further alterations are required to prevent such battles from exceeding a certain predetermined length of time.
    Absolute Virtue: K guys its time for bed. See ya. *poof*

  5. #25
    Puppetmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rellikard View Post
    Probably buffing JoL to counter the weakened AV?
    now it will draw in your whole alliance no matter where your tanks stand! atleast they gave warning this time right

  6. #26
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    Could this be true? After so much bad press, even my co-workers were walking up to me and going "So, did you hear about that 18-hour fight? Have you fought it?", S-E is nerfing its own bullshit mobs? Can't wait to find out how they turn an epic promise into an epic fail!

  7. #27
    E. Body
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    Just as planned.

  8. #28
    Corwens a slot
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    Spreading the word about shit to news sites does wonders.

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    AV will Meteor non-stop if you don't figure out the trick within 2 min of him spawning.

  10. #30
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    AV will Meteor non-stop if you don't figure out the trick within 2 min of him spawning.
    Doesn't he pretty much do that already?

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    But why JoL again?
    because of the regen removal crap? JoL is abhorrently dull and repetitive, I'll take what I can get.

    If they remove the "trick" for AV and PW, revealing the trick would be worth an incredible collective facepalm.

  12. #32
    Hydra
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    So uh, why nerf JoL? It was already one of the easiest fights in ffxi O_o

  13. #33
    The God Damn Kuno
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    Because one of the many theories was that JoL was related to AV? And even if it is easy, it's really boring and long for no reason then a shitty gimick.

  14. #34
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    I imagine if JoL was its own fight and AV its own fight they wouldn't change JoL at all. But they have probably finally recognized that part of the issue with AV, assuming it's regularly killable, is that you just spent twice as long as you really needed to fighting JoL to spawn it, which goes back to the whole excessive-amounts-of-time thing when taken together.

  15. #35
    Relic Shield
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    Sounds to me like they made them really hard to prevent people holding them (lolwtf?), but this also means the battle times are longer because people never worked out the trick to weaken the mobs and then carry on killing them, effectively killing them in a stronger form than they could be killed in.
    Now it seems they are going to have them in their "weekend" form from the outset, but add a new way to prevent people holding them (rage timer?)

    Very poor show from SE indeed. Let’s hope this will be a lesion for them for what the player base will not tolerate.

  16. #36
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    Dear SE,

    Please fix Vrtra's utter gayness. Thanks




    Merona

  17. #37
    As I beavered away...
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    So does this mean they will give BtL PW's drops for free?

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waef View Post
    So does this mean they will give BtL PW's drops for free?
    No.

  19. #39
    Gunitsoldier
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    By weakening they probably mean "we'll give you a useless video, go figure it out".

  20. #40
    Fake Numbers
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    LOLJOL


    This was expectedly unexpected.
    It its interesting how swiftly, (for SE at least) they have responded to the Pandemonium Issue; I guess all it takes is (negative) media attention to spur them into action. It would be interesting, however, to discover the method by which they had intended us to kill it with; something (apparently) far more effective than the current (stomach-turningly) long style of fighting.

    Yet... FFXI has always been mysterious (to the point of ridiculous) in some of its quest hints and battle mechanics, did they honestly believe we would 'figure it out' with some sort of (cogent) hints, or at the very least, development leak?

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