Regarding Specific Notorious Monsters (AV + PW + JOL)

[willriker]

I was thinking along the lines of Keako's last post. I agree completely.

[LinktheDeme]

they'll rape us in half the time now.

[Aidin]

President Madagascar!

Yes?

Someone got sick fighting Pandemonium Warden!

SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING

[Kaslo]

Is anyone else sick of this thread?

[Afrohatch]

Is anyone else sick of this thread?

The OP was about the only worthwhile post in the thread lol.

[Mega]

Here we go. The announcement we've all been waiting for.

[Suiram]

President Madagascar!

Yes?

Someone got sick fighting Pandemonium Warden!

SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING

Ironically, killing AV and PW without any adjustment is probably easier and less time-consuming than trying to infect a single Madagascan fucker in that game.

[Correction]

I think managing difficulty was what SE was going for with AV and the new PW. As others have said, new NMs nowadays usually get raped the day they come out and made into farming status that week.

Then the truth of the matter is that SE needs to get better at making puzzles. Because right now it's a perfect metaphor for 'pick a hand' *PUNCH TO THE FACE* 'wrong hand, try again.'

The cost of experimentation should not ever exceed the normal amount of playtime for even the strongest of linkshells. Either the encounter wipes you after a set amount of time (rage timer) or it gives you clues that experimenting within expected game parameters would reveal (hey this mob takes extra damage from xxx when he is xxx and less damage when he does xxx). PW's worst mechanic is that his forms are actually killable before you 'weaken' him, giving the illusion of progress when in reality you're not going to get anywhere after 20 forms changes.

SE has not understood the aforementioned distinction for a long time now. PW and AV both use alliance raping abilities far too early, and far too 'at will.' Even Bahamut doesn't start casting Rapega until the last few percent. Now THAT'S an encounter that uses proper, decipherable game mechanics to ramp up its own difficulty.

[Kabbalah]

Is anyone else sick of this thread?

Why, you've been watching it for 18 hours straight?

And I'm inclined to agree with Kaeko: Bv2 is probably the perfect HNM fight in terms of difficulty, as well as a feeling of 'epic.' You're pretty much working yourself up to a damned good fight the second you prepare to enter the area, and that's exactly what you get: the enemies feel and look strong, the floating islands lend a sense of spaciousness to the setting, and you've gotta love the music.

Honestly, I'd love to fight AV in Empyreal Paradox, via a pop item or whatever. Fighting one of the baddest HNMs in the middle of sea feels a bit...anti-climactic.

[Tubbers]

Holy fuck, posting in an epic thread.

[Zalius]

ELMER

BE MY AMBASSADOR

TELL THEM THE STORY OF ZALIUS

[Mega]

Then the truth of the matter is that SE needs to get better at making puzzles. Because right now it's a perfect metaphor for 'pick a hand' *PUNCH TO THE FACE* 'wrong hand, try again.'

Beautiful comparison it is.

[Colenzo]

STOP POSTING IN THE EPIC THREAD, YOU ARE MAKING ME FURIOUS!

[Kaneda]

Holy fuck, posting in an epic thread.

[pohibaba]

Really? You used your first real post to do nothing but quote someone else? Good choice there, buddy.

[montgomery]

Is anyone else sick of this thread?

This thread made me vomit, etc.

[Rocl]

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[Minions]

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God its so hard to pick between Elmer and Rocl at who wins this thread.

[Indalecia]

God its so hard to pick between Elmer and Rocl at who wins this thread.

Elmer's taru

[Aerin]

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rofl that made my night.