Regarding Specific Notorious Monsters (AV + PW + JOL)

[bercus]

So after this "success" regarding AV/PW.

What is the problem in getting the same success for the botted or 24/7 camped NMs?
(All those NMs that spawn and lead to botting or hardcore camping is failure and need to get adjusted)

(Where Linkshells think they are great just because they cheat their claims or you only have a chance in actually fighting some of them if you are there 24-48 hours with a holding Party or duo/trio crew)

SE has anounced multiple times. If there is enough feedback they will consider and make adjustments. So gogogo!!!

It would be interesting, however, to discover the method by which they had intended us to kill it with, something far more effective than the current (stomach-turningly) long style of fighting.

Maybe good to ask in a Q&A or in an Interview some day .

[Priran]

SE has anounced multiple times. If there is enough bad press they will consider and make adjustments. So gogogo!!!

fixed

quick, someone find a way to make nidhogg induce vomiting

[Dohorehn]

s-u-c-c-e-s-s that is how you speeeelll.... SUCCESS.

good job, news media and 18 hour fighters!

[Deeke]

And whilst they're adjusting the code, I fully expect a particularly butthurt and spiteful dev (probably the one who came up with JoL's regen) to knock droprates down to JEJ levels.

[bercus]

I first thought I spelled it wrong after your "s-u-c-c-e-s-s"
/slap

[Waef]

No.

I know they should get some compensation at least though, but knowing SE, they won't.

[spooky]

And whilst they're adjusting the code, I fully expect a particularly butthurt and spiteful dev (probably the one who came up with JoL's regen) to knock droprates down to JEJ levels.

A horridly low drop-rate is still a lot better than never.

[LD]

So they seem to be saying "there's a trick to AV and PW [and I guess JoL? lol] that you guys never figured out." Sounds like something that could be BS anyway, but assuming it's not I know a lot of people--including myself--would like to know what that trick was originally supposed to be (for AV at least).

This. They really gotta stop blaming the shit on us.
Also, holy shit, the media blitz actually worked. :D

[Ophannus]

It was for this reason that previous measures were put into practice which prohibited NMs from being held in battle for prolonged periods. In response to these events, we have determined that further alterations are required to prevent such battles from exceeding a certain predetermined length of time.

Sounds like rage to me.

[Kayos]

some players have engaged these enemies using unanticipated methods which led to extended battle times.

That line had me giggling. Clearly it was the players fault that we couldn't kill AV


But damn better late than never /happyface

[Octavious]

So when I read this, two immediate things popped into my mind. Either, "Yay, maybe someone will finally figure out how to beat AV if they fix it," and that was promptly followed by, "Well, shrinking a 18 hr fight to a 10hr fight is still shrinking the time..."

I'm hoping that this, along with the Dynamis 'increase' in drop rate, are noticable. If they're pseudo-fixes that are half assed, I think SE could see a large backlash after saying this. On the plus side, shortening JOL is always pleasant, maybe I won't die as much on BLM...

edit: @Kayos, I hadn't thought of that lol. SE, "Sorry you guys are too stupid to fight AV using Earth Staffs and facing NE on Lightsday with 3 mithras behind you doing /dance4 and /dance3 while Hume samurais Tachi:Gekko behind you. We didn't anticipate that you would fight this NM like everything else in our game, so it's your fault." lol

[rithridan]

I'm gonna laugh my ass off if they buff JoL to cast Flarega III on your ass if you don't nuke him on the day of the week or whatever bs they come up with xD Actually I'd probably /cry since we still have to burn through a shit load JoL pops and we barely get over 18 people to come >_> (making it last wayyyy too long)

[Lyramion]

I can tell you the trick: 7 jailer weapons you need to make a 6 way skillchain including ALL the jailer weapons to make AV go.... "OH OH WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" and then he will be weakened.


See I just solved AV.

[Rocl]

The trick to AV was wearing your Tidal Talismans.

[Apelila]

You know what would make this update the single greatest ever? If they made NM's that only drop a rare/ex item drop that item 100%. Until I see that, anything else they do can go fuck a donkey.

I'm not talking about stuff that has a large loot pool, i'm talking about yinyang, moldavaite, rutter's, parade gorget. Added content my ass.

[kayn]

I can tell you the trick: 7 jailer weapons you need to make a 6 way skillchain including ALL the jailer weapons to make AV go.... "OH OH WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" and then he will be weakened.


See I just solved AV.

Do jailer weapons hit AV for more than 0 dmg?

[Attila]

I think the difference here than what's involved in the Kings system is the fact that kings shouldn't take more than 4 hours total (giving an hour for kill). And let's be honest, 90% of people at camps are probably afk between windows. I hardly think it will be as easy to get them to change Kings. (not to say I wouldn't be happy if they did)

[Octavious]

Since we finally got SE to change this, can we have them fix the Kirin teleport? I swear to god if I go 0/10 on the way to Kirin again I will start /wristing. I think SE is finally becoming aware of the difference between making a fight difficult and making a fight obnoxious.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Mistakes SE is never making again: AV, PW

[Jones]

The aim of these changes is to create battles where a decisive outcome may be reached within a shorter period of time.

Hope this goes the optimistic way...