Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Bishop1]

People should just stop upgrading melee mythics and upgrade the mage ones. Want a good melee weapon get a relic.

[Shinta]

People should just stop upgrading melee mythics and upgrade the mage ones. Want a good melee weapon get a relic.

Seriously. Still surprised we haven't seen Yagrush yet, the best mythic weapon.

[frodnonnag]

Seriously. Still surprised we haven't seen Yagrush yet, the best mythic weapon.

because a dead whm is oh so useful.

[Malacite]

Are you serious it's only 1 god damned skill?

. __ . that makes me very sad. On the other hand, it also means I can save myself 4 weapon merits if I can get my hands on the Torque O.o

[Shinta]

because a dead whm is oh so useful.

I haven't heard this one before. So you're saying Yagrush is useless because it would generate so much enmity that you'd always die?

I don't ever see that happening except on a longer fight. The only one that might even count would be Erase-ga, and really, I don't think you'd pull hate with it hardly ever. As is, I rarely pull hate on anything and I'm not wearing a Novia.

[TummieGaruda]

I haven't heard this one before. So you're saying Yagrush is useless because it would generate so much enmity that you'd always die?

I don't ever see that happening except on a longer fight. The only one that might even count would be Erase-ga, and really, I don't think you'd pull hate with it hardly ever. As is, I rarely pull hate on anything and I'm not wearing a Novia.

I wouldn't be surprised if when using Divine Veil on the mythic, it calculates Enmity based on a single target ~na spell. If not, it would just be BRD Mazurka enmity building all over again.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I wouldn't be surprised if when using Divine Veil on the mythic, it calculates Enmity based on a single target ~na spell. If not, it would just be BRD Mazurka enmity building all over again.

Only if you made it that way. You've got keep in mind its all just a big hunk of VE. Unless you're spamming it specifically to maintain hate, you'll have decayed long before you went to do another round of -na.

[Elondir]

Why are people complaining about WHMs pulling hate with Yagrush, if you get it and can generate massive hate with all these AOE Na's, whack all that haste gear on that WHM gets, sub nin and become your new LS tank.

I'm of the opinion it won't pull hate however, over a standard tanking set up.

[Damane]

because a dead whm is oh so useful.

with over -30 enmity (which you can easy get by standart whm gear) I doubt you will pull hate with yagrush...

[Gtype954]

I agree, it is pretty much situational. Even though the RoTZ relics are stronger, the Mythics offer up a different way of going at things when using it. As it was stated before, some fights you store TP before fighting, and having Lv3 Aftermath at the start of a fight could come in pretty handy.

There are some mythics that just don't make any sense such as Death Penalty. Most Corsair's don't shoot for TP at 75. Instead they Tp with Joyeuse. Even though you are getting a shorter delay on the gun itself, Leaden Salute pretty much sucks on anything that has high INT or can resist magic. The only place I really see Leaden Salute shine is in Dynamis where I can get around 950 Dmg on Darksday and 800+ DMG any other day while not having a BLM in the party. On Greater Colibri it's so LOLable due to the fact that those birds have ridiculous MDB. Unless the "Enhances Quick Draw" adds a lot of damage, then I don't see Death Penalty as something that is worth upgrading.

Colibre are weak to gun bullet damage and you can dish out very powerful Slug slots on them. I do not think QuickDraw is considered Magic even though MAB affects it damage.
2 reason is because 1. My quickdraw barely ever gets resists on colibre, and 2. You cannot magic Burst with QD.
HNMs have rediculous Evasion and I cannot ever land Slug shots or even bullets on them, however they drop like hookers on Quickdraw.
COR in merit party = Bullet and melee spam plus support job.
but COR in HNM I play the job way differently, I do not melee or shoot bullets. Quickdraw does dmg and enfeebles the HNM. (ice and earth shot)
I Think it should have augmented and enhanced QD and maybe the weapon would be more worth it, Like add 5% to both enfeeble shots and also add acc and dmg to the quikdraws. I do believe with the Gun, you can do mini zerges with 600 DMG quickdraws x8. (If both random deals land)

Honestly I would only do the lvl3 Aftermath before doing a barrage, or equip the gun while fighting HNMs. Just like all the other mythic weapons, this one is no exception when it comes to being BAD at merit parties.
Martial Gun > lvl1 and lvl2 aftermath. Does the lvl3 aftermath also work with your joytoy? does it work with barrage? Does it work on Weaponskills 0_0? Thats the question we need to know.

My guess is it works on Barrage but not your melee weapon or WS.

[Okan]

because a dead whm is oh so useful.

How is it going to kill the WHM?

Divine Veil Enhancement

* Spells have the Divine Veil effect without Divine Seal being active

Doesn't look like that will kill me on WHM. Only thing is this is now a macro weapon to put with Silena/Paralyna/etc and I'll still main heal with Light/Apollo/Healing staves.

[Tsuko_Asura]

How is it going to kill the WHM?

Divine Veil Enhancement

* Spells have the Divine Veil effect without Divine Seal being active

Doesn't look like that will kill me on WHM. Only thing is this is now a macro weapon to put with Silena/Paralyna/etc and I'll still main heal with Light/Apollo/Healing staves.

He's referring to the potential enmity one could accumulate if they were /attempting/ to pull hate. With a bit of enmity gear, Poisona on six people simultaneously is a bit more VE than Flash. He forgets that, not only do White Mages tend to be wearing enmity reduction, the VE would have decayed by the time one got to the next round of -na, let alone the fact that you're not likely to be hitting six people every single time.

[frodnonnag]

the most cynical people of ffxi, and i wooshed them with a blatant piece of sarcasm... fail.

[TummieGaruda]

Colibre are weak to gun bullet damage and you can dish out very powerful Slug slots on them. I do not think QuickDraw is considered Magic even though MAB affects it damage.
2 reason is because 1. My quickdraw barely ever gets resists on colibre, and 2. You cannot magic Burst with QD.
HNMs have rediculous Evasion and I cannot ever land Slug shots or even bullets on them, however they drop like hookers on Quickdraw.
COR in merit party = Bullet and melee spam plus support job.
but COR in HNM I play the job way differently, I do not melee or shoot bullets. Quickdraw does dmg and enfeebles the HNM. (ice and earth shot)
I Think it should have augmented and enhanced QD and maybe the weapon would be more worth it, Like add 5% to both enfeeble shots and also add acc and dmg to the quikdraws. I do believe with the Gun, you can do mini zerges with 600 DMG quickdraws x8. (If both random deals land)

Honestly I would only do the lvl3 Aftermath before doing a barrage, or equip the gun while fighting HNMs. Just like all the other mythic weapons, this one is no exception when it comes to being BAD at merit parties.
Martial Gun > lvl1 and lvl2 aftermath. Does the lvl3 aftermath also work with your joytoy? does it work with barrage? Does it work on Weaponskills 0_0? Thats the question we need to know.

My guess is it works on Barrage but not your melee weapon or WS.

Actually QD is considered magic damage as it follows the same resist rates, however, it cannot be magic bursted. The big difference is that the accuracy of quick draw is dependent on the users AGI, whereas in the past when COR was first released, QD damage was 100% accurate and was never resisted. This change came a few months after COR was released when they changed Light Shot to sleep and Dark Shot to Dispel (They used to do light and dark damage). Also, if I remember correctly, QD doesn't check against the mobs MDB, which Colibri have a lot of and would bring the damage down (Your MAB / mobs MDB).

Still on HNM's usually Detonator is more reliable for COR, but the fact of the matter is that Leaden Salute will still see lower numbers especially on high INT mobs due to the fact that the damage calculates your AGI vs mobs INT. The weaponskill is pretty terrible on Colibri but if it did boost QD to a much higher amount (600 DMG) then I could see this gun being used just to spam detonator and use QD.

[Shinta]

the most cynical people of ffxi, and i wooshed them with a blatant piece of sarcasm... fail.

Or maybe you were being serious the first time and NOW you're wooshing us!? PARADOX

[LD]

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[Indalecia]

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[Killkenny]

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Picked it up yesterday, roughly 60% self funded, rest was sponsering.

Thanks to my linkshell for letting me sponser and everyone that swapped shells for bronze and Shwtym on the 3k loan.

[Sho]

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[Meat]

fuck that noise, pimpin is easy