Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Tsuko_Asura]

I agree, its completely and utterly their prerogative. But that said, I find it incredibly selfish to not provide information that you and you alone have the ability to provide.

[Spira]

its hard to say for certain. being selfish is sometimes the better thing to do to protect oneself..
for example, with making gil. i'd rather be selfish and keep my profit-making secrets to myself than to tell others. Granted this is far less exclusive than a mythic, the same principle does apply..

also, if the guy has a friend upgrading mythic as well, and is currently buying currency, if his mythic is amazing and what he reveals might just spike the price of Alexandrite, he could choose to keep quiet for the time being to help his friend... or simply because he wants to 'feel special' about his weapon.
lotsa people have different motivational drivers, but if capitalist principles apply to FFXI (and they do..) selfishness will somehow benefit everyone.

About Kogarasumaru tho.. I don't think it'd be better than Amanomurakumo in general, but would definitely be more useful than the majority of melee mythics because its TP dependant and getting TP is hardly as much of an issue with SAM than it is with other jobs since a well-geared SAM with medidate can get 140-180TP off the bat, and the rest should be easy to work to 300% with a standard 6hit build..
Proper timing of WS (more in the first minute) should allow a SAM to keep up TP just fine. Every other cycle can be boosted with Meditate to keep up, and when you're storing faster than you need to be, you can still Sekkanoki to use some of that TP again... This is all theorycrafting tho... so dont mind me

[Arthars]

i should forgive and forget and leave the sam alone

im turning my attention to kirschy

*stares at liberator*

[Doompie]

its hard to say for certain. being selfish is sometimes the better thing to do to protect oneself..
for example, with making gil. i'd rather be selfish and keep my profit-making secrets to myself than to tell others. Granted this is far less exclusive than a mythic, the same principle does apply..

also, if the guy has a friend upgrading mythic as well, and is currently buying currency, if his mythic is amazing and what he reveals might just spike the price of Alexandrite, he could choose to keep quiet for the time being to help his friend... or simply because he wants to 'feel special' about his weapon.
lotsa people have different motivational drivers, but if capitalist principles apply to FFXI (and they do..) selfishness will somehow benefit everyone.

About Kogarasumaru tho.. I don't think it'd be better than Amanomurakumo in general, but would definitely be more useful than the majority of melee mythics because its TP dependant and getting TP is hardly as much of an issue with SAM than it is with other jobs since a well-geared SAM with medidate can get 140-180TP off the bat, and the rest should be easy to work to 300% with a standard 6hit build..
Proper timing of WS (more in the first minute) should allow a SAM to keep up TP just fine. Every other cycle can be boosted with Meditate to keep up, and when you're storing faster than you need to be, you can still Sekkanoki to use some of that TP again... This is all theorycrafting tho... so dont mind me

An added bonus to SAM is that using sekkanoki at 300 TP only uses 100 TP but gives the highest aftermath effect. I remember this from amano as it surprised me although it was kinda useless. Could possibly work on mythic too and be much more useful.
Someone should test this again though. Could have been fixed by now.

[Hex]

He said he tested the Sekkanoki thing and it only gave him a level 1 Aftermath. He tried with Meikyo Shisui as well. He said it doesn't give an attack bonus but some of that may be lost in translation. I'll speak to one of their english speaking members soon as I can. This LS is busy and they are always out camping something or at an event. Zeion is their main thief at most of the events so he doesn't always have the free time to test things. Give it time and don't be so impatient.

Just talked to one of their English speaking members. They will have tests posted in a blog once they've gone over the results. So hopefully we'll see what all they've done. We'll just need some translation when it's posted.

[Spira]

it prolly should be an unintentional thing since sekkanoki limits your ws to a 100% TP ws, mods and all.. but i would guess since aftermath arent part of the actual WS and tacked on it might have accidentally been excluded from the sekkanoki's adjustment..

and if it doesn't work, that should mean Meikyo Shisui makes aftermath weaker too...

[Arthars]

/em feeds Kirschy with tyger's tail and tinnin fang

[Kirschy]

~4-5 Tinnin pops soon. But farming up some tyger pops will take me a bit (Next week is Spring Break for me at least.) I've completed the hard stuff, so I'm gonna try to take it a bit easy. A few people have offered to help by letting me lot the ra/ex item if it drops... we'll see if that works out~ I won't be done in the next few days, but I'm hoping for sooner rather than later. The support is appreciated!

[isladar]

Really looking forward to your achievement and what you find out, Kirschy.

[SteveMc]

Especially since she will have a mythic and a relic of the same weapon, it will be nice to see both parses and comparison data, I myself cannot wait for you to finish.

[Neosutra]

Gogo 5% absorb bonus!

[ninjafox]

That's what I'm expecting honestly, since it appears that the other 2 hand weapons seem to give a 5% boost to something.

[Unstable]

would be fairly hard to test Third Eye alone wouldnt it? i mean.. even with Seigan alone it can be so random, like avoiding 7 attacks in a row and then the next Third Eye just avoiding 3.
isnt to say he shouldnt be testing it, but it probably takes time to figure out how to test something thats this passive.

and like kirschy said, its kinda their prerogative.. they have no duty as a mythic owner to test it for others - especially not if their intention of owning one involved wasnt making use of it lol. might just be a status symbol thing

had a drk/sam at dynamis dunes few nights ago got 23 procs off in a row >_>; like 4-5 sheep hitting him

[Furionstormrage]

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Jogiyat - Teletubbies - Cerberus

Congrat Jogi~

Congrats Jogiyat, very happy for you ^^

[Chojja]

Watch it be 5% more damage converted on souleater

[Cloudius]

Im sure Man/Ridill will be better than Liberator, amirite Kirschy?

[Malacite]

Man I wish Liberator had a massive SE mod >.> (like 25% HP minimum) to go with the Lv 3 AM but alas...

So the guy still hasn't tried using just third eye on it's own or with Hasso up while using Koga? What about removing all his Store TP gear and seeing if it mods that? (That'd be REALLY weird and silly but you never know these days with SE)

I mean it's not that hard to test. Just gotta be creative and get a sizeable sampling. I still think Koga will shred Amano with lv 3 AM up however from the sheer number of WS (as I said before this thing is basically Soboro on roids and Soboro already stacks up against Hagun nicely. At least against EXP mobs lol wouldn't dare use it on HNMs)

[konoko]

hoping liberator turns out to be good, im getting to the point where i need to decide what mythic to upgrade (i really want a mythic) and my friends keep pointing me to drk or drg

[Wildman]

Arson - Seraph - Dynacore

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[Dramafinderftw]

Arson - Seraph - Dynacore

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holy shit, finally grats arson now go be a slave to SOU with your amano.