Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Zilong]

Might wanna light up Elmer signal for that blog, since it has kogarasumaru info as well i think.

[Araelus]

Sorry moved some posts that were about the hit setup of brav with other post that were worthless and lolgear posts. Feel free to repost answers to the Brav Q

I'm glad by quoting "rawr tekki rawr" it flagged you to come and post. Kind of scary but cool.

Question I always wondered about Relic GA users is what do you plan to do about the loss of you're 6-hit from using a 504 delay GA? Will you try to make up for it by switching some gear slots or maybe a change in food or just completely forget about the 6-hit and just go as is?

From what I remember, since there's no way they would take off Armadaberk, the food choices are Store TP pasta dishes, but is +5 enough, or will Arrabbiata never be acceptable?

[Ansems]

Bastilla - Bravura - Ramuh

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Grats to my favorite French Canadian! <3 Bastilla

[Silenka]

Might wanna light up Elmer signal for that blog, since it has kogarasumaru info as well i think.

It does have a little bit of Kogara info, she has been communicating with the guy since they're both mythic holders, but I tried to translate it and the level is just a bit over my head to make sure complete sentences. I'm sure I'm missing some of the lingo too (like noru when talking about attacking, if anyone can shed some light on the capacity that's being used in).

The most I see on there is I think she said that the guy found during a merit pt that the "occasionally attacks twice" procs on ws much like double attack, and she's worried about whether the weapon will even do anything double-attack wise if you're, say, subbing war or using a brutal earring, or if you'll attack 3 or 4 times if the weapon + extra DA goes off...

There was some other stuff but I didn't look since I was having too much trouble with the first part =(

But like I said, I could be totally off since putting parts of sentences together to mean what the person intended has never been my strong suit. >.>;

[Spira]

i looked at it a little and apparently she hears that koga makes third eye 'last longer'.. but my japanese isnt that great. wait for what elmer has to say lol

[Jakson]

she said that the guy found during a merit pt that the "occasionally attacks twice" procs on ws much like double attack, and she's worried about whether the weapon will even do anything double-attack wise if you're, say, subbing war or using a brutal earring, or if you'll attack 3 or 4 times if the weapon + extra DA goes off...

Your use of the word "worried" worries me ; ;

[Almalexia]

the "occasionally attacks twice" procs on ws much like double attack

Oho... this could be pretty nasty.

17TP return on Raging Fists; MNK/THF, no Brutal. AM3 active.
Standard is 15TP.

[Kirschy]

Last edited by Almalexia; Today at 06:36 AM. Reason: Really should have done PUP.

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The DA work on WS then??

[Silenka]

Your use of the word "worried" worries me ; ;

She uses 'ki ni naru' (be worried) a lot in talking about that mythic, lol.

Seems the DA works on WS, doesn't it...

Another note, I just read further and it doesn't seem like the SAM is posting anywhere (at the moment) because she wrote something to the extent of 'Well I didn't mean to talk this much about something that isn't mine, but I know a lot of people want to know about it...'

So I'm assuming the only info that's coming in at the moment is straight from him ingame.

[Almalexia]

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The DA work on WS then??

Yeah, but so far I can only get as much as 17TP on Raging Fists (1 extra fist). The case may be that, like normal swings, AM3 DA proc only triggers on the main hand. For every melee but MNK, this is GOOD NEWS.

[Zanketsu]

Wow sounds interesting

[pchan]

So Stringing Pummel = 8 hits WS with kenkonken during AM3, which makes AM3 a little more useful for pup (~ 30% WS dmg boost ?)

[Kirschy]

Yeah, but so far I can only get as much as 17TP on Raging Fists (1 extra fist). The case may be that, like normal swings, AM3 DA proc only triggers on the main hand. For every melee but MNK, this is GOOD NEWS.

Even if it can only proc once, it's a nice treat. That'll be a big boost to 2H WS. Was the proc rate the same as a normal swing under Lv 3 AM? (Infering the first hit has to proc.) Or did it seem much higher? (Infering any of the hits can fire it.) I'm guessing the latter based on your wording =x.

Does the AM fire before the WS is used? (If you're out of range/miss will the AM Icon still show?)

[Almalexia]

AM icon will appear even if you miss.

And from what little testing I've done, it looks like the first hit has to proc the DA. Raging Fists is a 5-fold attack and I have only earned 6-hit TP return maximum. If every hit was eligible for DA, I would never see normal TP return.

Well, if 15TP (6+6+1+1+1) is normal with +18 Store TP and I get 17TP from Raging Fists wearing +18 Store TP, does that mean I got TWO more hits than normal or are fractions of TP rounding up due to ONE extra hit?

[Vejitta]

Question I always wondered about Relic GA users is what do you plan to do about the loss of you're 6-hit from using a 504 delay GA? Will you try to make up for it by switching some gear slots or maybe a change in food or just completely forget about the 6-hit and just go as is?

Hail to the Carbonara!

[Neoex]

Question I always wondered about Relic GA users is what do you plan to do about the loss of you're 6-hit from using a 504 delay GA? Will you try to make up for it by switching some gear slots or maybe a change in food or just completely forget about the 6-hit and just go as is?

This is a very good point, and I cannot tel you how annoying it is to be at 99 TP, Carbonara would be the easy answer, or just take hate and get hit has been my solution Easy in merit parties, salvage, nyzle, limbus, not so much in Einherjar and Dynamis.

[ninjafox]

Would the DA on WS be easier to test with warrior since they have warrior's charge? Would that even stack with the AM?

[seiji]

AM icon will appear even if you miss.

And from what little testing I've done, it looks like the first hit has to proc the DA. Raging Fists is a 5-fold attack and I have only earned 6-hit TP return maximum. If every hit was eligible for DA, I would never see normal TP return.

Well, if 15TP (6+6+1+1+1) is normal with +18 Store TP and I get 17TP from Raging Fists wearing +18 Store TP, does that mean I got TWO more hits than normal or are fractions of TP rounding up due to ONE extra hit?

you +18STP give 1.1 TP for each extra hit (STP applyed to the 1 base for extra hits)

so your TP gain look like: 6.3+6.3+1.1+1.1+1.1=15.9
1DA give +1.1 =>17

if you evr see 16 (with 18STP) above number (6.3)are wrong and you got 2DA procs on your 17

[pchan]

AM icon will appear even if you miss.

And from what little testing I've done, it looks like the first hit has to proc the DA. Raging Fists is a 5-fold attack and I have only earned 6-hit TP return maximum. If every hit was eligible for DA, I would never see normal TP return.

Well, if 15TP (6+6+1+1+1) is normal with +18 Store TP and I get 17TP from Raging Fists wearing +18 Store TP, does that mean I got TWO more hits than normal or are fractions of TP rounding up due to ONE extra hit?

6.3 x 2 + 3*1.1=15.9 (not sure if my tp return is formula is accurate as I use wiki formula with delay/2) with 0 DA

17.0 for 1 DA, 18.1 for 2 DA so yeah .. the 2 first hits are counted as one hit and DA can proc once only.

[Tyramut]

Wow, not often you hear good news about mythics.. SP + Kekonken sounds pretty nasty now!