Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[frodnonnag]

predator claws for some reason just puts out the higher numbers, against merit level mobs i'll usually see 1k claws versus 800 dive or mb. personal highest i've seen against colibri is a predator claws in the 1600s. and thats not counting the unusually high numbers i'll pull in events like nyzul isle or limbus.

[Silenka]

predator claws for some reason just puts out the higher numbers, against merit level mobs i'll usually see 1k claws versus 800 dive or mb. personal highest i've seen against colibri is a predator claws in the 1600s. and thats not counting the unusually high numbers i'll pull in events like nyzul isle or limbus.

This, have no clue myself why Garuda consistently does so much more damage than other avatars (with the notable exception of Ramuh who puts up some amazing numbers on various mobs, but Garuda's still a bit better). Kinda get tired of using Garuda all the time though, wish SE would buff up some of the other avatars. Perhaps Nirvana will even out the other avatars with Garuda though...

[hezzel]

found this wandering around whitegate, and not listed on ffxiah.
Server: Hades

http://hezzel.net/ffxi_2009.03.14_13.13.44.png

[Sev]

Kommission - Armada - Cerberus

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...beth/kaces.jpg

GRATS KACES!!!!

Grats Kaces, damn now what the hell am I suppose to harass you about. Tho I see two people in that screenshot I know are lying!

[DAKPluto]

OK, maybe I missed it somewhere, but when/how/where did we start thinking aftermath applies to avatars also?

[Virtuous Saint]

OK, maybe I missed it somewhere, but when/how/where did we start thinking aftermath applies to avatars also?

When we looked at the weapon's stats?

[DAKPluto]

sorry, worded that incorrectly.

To rephrase, Physical BPs. As everything I see on that staff deals with the magical BPs only. Just seems to me all this talk of Predator Claws is a little premature.

[Grieverao]

found this wandering around whitegate, and not listed on ffxiah.
Server: Hades

http://hezzel.net/ffxi_2009.03.14_13.13.44.png

Yeah, Hezz, he's had that since about Nov last year.

He completed it about 30 mins~ after we sold him the fragment. Good guy to chat to.

[Spira]

the physical BP talk came about because people assume physical BPs to be counted like weapon skills, and if the OAT DA applied to weapon skills, it would apply to avatar's BPs as well, and Nirvana's Lv3 is OAT for SMN and pet.
This much is premature yea.. but its not one without reason. It probably works with Kenkonken and automatons too.. I dunno how DA will proc on Armor Piercer, but its going to be a sick amount of damage..

anyway.. with regard to P Claws, quite obviously it somehow does better than the rest of the 70 BPs.. and this is usually due to multiple crit... but this comparison has never considered double attack, since its not possible for avatars to DA to begin with.
As DA seems to proc only on 1 hit in a WS, it might seem logical (if) it applies to BPs the same way, DA only proccing on 1 hit.
That said, P Claws doesn't do well enough that it ever does more than 1.5x the damage of 1 hit BPs against harder mobs, so a DA on a single hit attack might net you with more damage than a DA on a single hit out of Predator Claws 3 hits... and this is assuming all 3 P Claw hits land, which isn't always the case.. so on average OAT will likely work better with 1hit BPs than 3-5hit BPs, assuming they work at all, which is what im saying.
Just because P Claws happens to work the best as it is, doesn't meant it will do the same when OAT is applied to it.

[frodnonnag]

the physical BP talk came about because people assume physical BPs to be counted like weapon skills, and if the OAT DA applied to weapon skills, it would apply to avatar's BPs as well, and Nirvana's Lv3 is OAT for SMN and pet.
This much is premature yea.. but its not one without reason. It probably works with Kenkonken and automatons too.. I dunno how DA will proc on Armor Piercer, but its going to be a sick amount of damage..

anyway.. with regard to P Claws, quite obviously it somehow does better than the rest of the 70 BPs.. and this is usually due to multiple crit... but this comparison has never considered double attack, since its not possible for avatars to DA to begin with.
As DA seems to proc only on 1 hit in a WS, it might seem logical (if) it applies to BPs the same way, DA only proccing on 1 hit.
That said, P Claws doesn't do well enough that it ever does more than 1.5x the damage of 1 hit BPs against harder mobs, so a DA on a single hit attack might net you with more damage than a DA on a single hit out of Predator Claws 3 hits... and this is assuming all 3 P Claw hits land, which isn't always the case.. so on average OAT will likely work better with 1hit BPs than 3-5hit BPs, assuming they work at all, which is what im saying.
Just because P Claws happens to work the best as it is, doesn't meant it will do the same when OAT is applied to it.

catch is, i believe predator claw's first hit is bigger numbers than the last two, so if double attack procs off the first one, it would most likely mean larger numbers. and also consider that you have 3 (edit, i was wrong, only 2) chances to proc double attack, apposed to 1, with that spinning dive may put out a bigger hit with double attack, but predator claws will have a higher overall consistency. this is all based on my understanding of double attack, which may be wrong.


but in the end this is all betting on if the double attack even procs on BP, something we won't know(or speculate accurately about) until pup, bst, or smn mythics are done.

[Tekki]

do we know anyone working on it?

[Indalecia]

Nitsuj

[DAKPluto]

I haven't heard of any legitimate Nirvana upgrade attempts (someone that really can finish it.) But this isn't a big shock as Nirvana without this double attack proc really isn't worth 100+ mil. Most SMNs have been looking into upgrading other mythics.

Maybe with this chance some people will jump on it. Hey, give me 100 mil, I'll do it, lol.

[Aurara]

two people on ifrit are upgrading it...to bad they're both retarded ><

[frodnonnag]

I haven't heard of any legitimate Nirvana upgrade attempts (someone that really can finish it.) But this isn't a big shock as Nirvana without this double attack proc really isn't worth 100+ mil. Most SMNs have been looking into upgrading other mythics.

Maybe with this chance some people will jump on it. Hey, give me 100 mil, I'll do it, lol.

i'm pushing for it, but like most my issue will be alexandrite, not everything else.

90/100 einherjar, 50/150 nyzul, 0/50 redo assaults. 4k alexandrite.

[Kipling]

i'm pushing for it, but like most my issue will be alexandrite, not everything else.

90/100 einherjar, 50/150 nyzul, 0/50 redo assaults. 4k alexandrite.

Pretty impressive you do all that as smn only. =) Salvage too.

[frodnonnag]

Pretty impressive you do all that as smn only. =) Salvage too.

nah, the bigger handicap is being taru, fuck only having 700 hp.

i do have an alt with 100bc and 5 75s, but can't do much for reclearing assaults or nyzul isle on him.

[yayaok]

well, if frodnonnag is upgrading smn we won't have to worry about not getting some juicy info considering its in the hands of such a pimp taru smn

[Grieverao]

Goshtin - Apocalypse - Hades

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...315_024750.jpg

DeathHouse relic #1

[DAKPluto]

Dear god that's a lot of people.