Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Celebrindor]

hot shit on the murgleis. Most RDMs I know (including myself) would simply desire this weapon to finish on RDM completely, and have a weapon truly designed for a RDM. Yeah, you're not gonna win a parse, but it looks badass, and the magic evasion down from Death Blossom combined with the given macc+10 and the AM1 Macc just might actually make it worthwhile for a hybrid RDM in merits- assuming the other gear to back it up. Plus no more embarrassing convert deaths.

Has he tested it for enspell damage against T-VT mobs? If you can hit for full damage enspells on those mobs, combined with 300+ enhancing, fencer's ring, hollow earring could mean a nice +28 dmg per swing...more than we'd ever get on those level mobs by stacking atk.

[Kipling]

hot shit on the murgleis. Most RDMs I know (including myself) would simply desire this weapon to finish on RDM completely, and have a weapon truly designed for a RDM. Yeah, you're not gonna win a parse, but it looks badass, and the magic evasion down from death blossom without the mythic is sweet enough to justify it for soloing. Plus no more embarrassing convert deaths.

Has he tested the magic evasion down for enspell damage against T-VT mobs? If you can hit for full damage enspells on those mobs, well then.....

If you're dying from convert as an experienced rdm something is wrong there.

[Celebrindor]

agreed- just pointing out a minor benefit. and yes, its not the be all end all, I look at some of the mythics as toys versus many of the relics. and any weapon for RDM is gonna be a toy, let's be honest.

[Cream Soda]

Mjollnir.

And the MNK mythic was proven to parse very well, even with only a 25% effective DA rate. They really don't seem to be that shitty when you actually get them and parse them.

I'd still like to see more numbers on Glaz before I'd call it to parse very well. Barely toppled destroyers from what was posted here and that was including the same time frame but with more mobs defeated. As well as being mnk/war which isn't all to realistic these days since it's mainly mnk/nin (time casting is time taken away gaining extra tp while aftermath is up and more dificult to rebuild to the 300 in a timely manner)

[Yugl]

Question: If they were done in the same amount of time, then isn't it possible that the reason there is a difference in the amount of mobs killed is because Glauz speeds up the kills? I'm looking at this from less of a DMG/Hr perspective and more of a Kill/Hrs with respect to both weapons.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I'd still like to see more numbers on Glaz before I'd call it to parse very well. Barely toppled destroyers from what was posted here and that was including the same time frame but with more mobs defeated. As well as being mnk/war which isn't all to realistic these days since it's mainly mnk/nin (time casting is time taken away gaining extra tp while aftermath is up and more dificult to rebuild to the 300 in a timely manner)

And he was new to glanzfaust. Not to be completely repetitive, but he hadn't had much experience with something that requires an altered playstyle. I expect his damage to improve as he learns to time it better. Not to mention same time frame + more mobs generally implies higher kill speed.

Nonetheless, I'd love to see new numbers too.

[Cream Soda]

Question: If they were done in the same amount of time, then isn't it possible that the reason there is a difference in the amount of mobs killed is because Glauz speeds up the kills? I'm looking at this from less of a DMG/Hr perspective and more of a Kill/Hrs with respect to both weapons.

Fromw hat I understand the extra mobs was adds like drg and bst pets, which also take much higher dmg than the actual mamools themselves. And again, I still think it' be a totally different story on /nin, which is used much more often than /war.

[Elesar]

I can't wait to see the results on a BST toothpick and COR rocket launcher mythic weapons.

[vagus]

Another mythic on Odin. That's 6 now?

[Colenzo]

how much macc does the WS + aftermath add? it might be good for random obscure things D: lol

[Tekki]

Unless the next responses have testings results and numbers posted, this conversation about "lawlworthless" posts is over.

[Weiing]

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[Zoolander]

LOL, missed first WS! But grats man, stoked to have it done now. :D

[Tricen]

GARTS WILLYA :O

[Izzy]

Tekki, you're modding this shit way too hard. We can't even have a discussion (albeit heated discussion) about a mythic being good or shit. If all you want this thread for is pictures, then so be it. Start another Mythic/Relic DISCUSSION thread where we can actually talk about this stuff.

I get infractions here for the dumbest shit lol.

[DAKPluto]

Call me crazy, but wouldn't this Mythic actually be very bad for RDM/NIN tanking since you are going to develop less enmity on convert since you need to cure yourself less?

[Tekki]

Tekki, you're modding this shit way too hard. We can't even have a discussion (albeit heated discussion) about a mythic being good or shit. If all you want this thread for is pictures, then so be it. Start another Mythic/Relic DISCUSSION thread where we can actually talk about this stuff.

I get infractions here for the dumbest shit lol.

You even said so yourself. Arguing over if a relic is "worth it" is not worth a relic discussion. I deleted about 35 post yesterday and most of them from the same 2 people, and nothing of importance was moved.

[Kipling]

Call me crazy, but wouldn't this Mythic actually be very bad for RDM/NIN tanking since you are going to develop less enmity on convert since you need to cure yourself less?

Haha, yeah a RDM/NIN builds hate slow compared to a PLD at first, but when they meet them they give them a nice run for their money. And convert cure4ing is a great way to start off. ;x

[Max™]

>.>

If THAT is the crux of the argument, then it is truly stupid, as Rdm has access to Zenith gear.

"Wtf is your point, Max?"

Equip some Zenith, swap to neutral/+hp gear, Cure IV wut?

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Call me crazy, but wouldn't this Mythic actually be very bad for RDM/NIN tanking since you are going to develop less enmity on convert since you need to cure yourself less?

That's a very good point, you could always use cure swaps though.