Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[nitsuj]

Congrats Saish! Go Unicorn!

[ninjafox]

Is the Divine Veil effect always active?

[Lyramion]

Is the Divine Veil effect always active?

Under which rock were you?


Yes always active as long as the weapon is in your main hand.

[Aselin]

Is the Divine Veil effect always active?

If going by Falisa's screenshots, looks like it is INDEED 100% active without the need for Divine Seal.

*jaw drops*

Congratulations on an awesome club!

[Kenji]

Esuna update notes were mistranslated. The WHM needs to have the effect on themselves before they can remove it from others. So in order to remove Poison, they have to have have Poison as well.

Source?

And did anyone really not know what the whm weapon did? We were told and shown months ago. It was probably the only mythic where we had info on the effect.

Perma Divine veil is nifty. But would i rather spend 90 mil and a year to aoe status remove? Or less than 1 mil and 2 months to level SCH? I chose the latter, in order to focus my efforts on something else.

And I'm really racking my brain, trying to think of situations where rapidly removing aoe status is critical. 4 charges from SCH generally handles it. And even *if* Esuna requires a WHM to have that status on (which sounds kinda silly), it's a simple matter to stand in aoe range, ie, flayers.

Can anyone seriously think of a situation where rapid aoe status removal is critical that a SCH or Esuna couldn't handle?

I'd honestly rather have a WHM mythic that enhanced cure and regen potency. 20% for both on a 1-hand weapon, would have been sexy.

[Shinta]

Can anyone seriously think of a situation where rapid aoe status removal is critical that a SCH or Esuna couldn't handle?

A SCH could handle it somewhat if they wanted to use their charges on it, a WHM with Yagrush could do it for free, and much faster. In addition, it works on other parties, you could poisona an entire alliance in 5 seconds without expending any charges or additional MP cost like SCH. In addition, pretty much everytime I got to Einherjar, I see AoE debuffs faster than one a minute. I'm sure there are other examples. Imps? I see them use Deafening Tantra pretty damn frequently. Reacton is another example. I can start to actually look if that's not enough, this is just off the top of my head. Wivre would be another. Spiders. Soulflayers. Skeletons.

Bottom line though, if you were a great WHM and you remove status effects from your tank instantly, now you're just automatically getting 6x the effect for doing nothing and removing it from your entire party. You have to be really pessimistic to think this isn't an incredible mythic.

In addition, this opens up use of Divine Seal for Cure Potency which can be handy if you know when to use it for even more additional MP savings.

............... in addition, meleeing with this club would be great. Mystic Boon is incredible and saving TP until 300% on WHM isn't a big deal like it is for melee, so you can get your DA bonus and keep mp high.

As far as Esuna, it's unknown. MP cost and recast are unknown. Obviously Esuna weakens it a little bit, but it's currently not known how it really works. So, we'll see.

Source?

The French and Japanese update notes.

[Kenji]

A SCH could handle it somewhat if they wanted to use their charges on it, a WHM with Yagrush could do it for free, and much faster. In addition, it works on other parties, you could poisona an entire alliance in 5 seconds without expending any charges or additional MP cost like SCH.

If a SCH is functioning as a healer, then they should know when status's are incoming and be prepared for it, by saving a charge or two. And why aren't your Einherjar alliance melees carrying meds? I rarely poisona since it counters sleep, and is quicker removed by an antidote. If something is spamming poisonga, then it's not worth spending any mp to remove, as it's just reapplied.

In addition, pretty much everytime I got to Einherjar, I see AoE debuffs faster than one a minute.

That's just it, too. If an aoe status is spammed that much, it's not worth spending the mp to remove. It's only worth removing if you can keep it off for more than a minute. And in that case, SCH charges (and most likely Esuna), can handle it.

Imps? I see them use Deafening Tantra pretty damn frequently.

People still not carrying echo drops? I could spend 30 mil buying everyone echo drops for the next 2 years, and it would be a better use of gil.

Last time I went to salvage with a SCH, he aoe removed any status's, leaving me free to haste and cure. When I did have to remove status, it was just 1 or 2 people to focus on, and happened fairly quickly.

............... in addition, meleeing with this club would be great. Mystic Boon is incredible and saving TP until 300% on WHM isn't a big deal like it is for melee, so you can get your DA bonus and keep mp high.

I'll leave melee WHM aspects to Izzy, as he's more experienced in it. But if you want to melee, there are already good weapons. A good WHM who is healing, is swapping weapons, so TP is lost.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this further. We'll find out about Esuna in April, but even if you need the status, you can Sacrifice someone, then Esuna the rest. Or stand in aoe status range.

I just don't want to spend 90 mil, so melee can avoid buying a stack of echos for 6k. It's a nice weapon, don't get me wrong. But the more I analyze it, I can't help but conclude that money is better spent elsewhere.

[Shinta]

That's just too funny though. You essentially said SCH can do the same thing, as long as everyone brings a stack of echo drops and antidotes, and you only remove status effects that aren't cast more than once a minute (aka: every single status effect in Einherjar). 90 million, fine, don't get one. It's ridiculously expensive. But it is better than SCH's status removal ... obviously.

Last time I went to salvage with a SCH, he aoe removed any status's, leaving me free to haste and cure. When I did have to remove status, it was just 1 or 2 people to focus on, and happened fairly quickly.

That's also funny because you're comparing two jobs to one now.

A good WHM who is healing, is swapping weapons, so TP is lost.

Any WHM meleeing would probably avoid swapping weapons. Yagrush would be pretty nice to use meleeing with Misery up and Cura. You can survive without the 10% Cure Potency in some events.

[DAKPluto]

Leeches - Atttack Down - Einerhjar

Yagrush = destroys the hell out of SCH

[Izzy]

Leeches - Atttack Down - Einerhjar

Yagrush = destroys the hell out of SCH

Oh my God I just realized how fucking awesome a Yagrush would be for Dynamis-Tavnazia...

fuck you nightmare leeches fuck you fuck you fuck you

melee stuff

You will never want to save up 300% TP. If you do plan on meeling, you're going to need a shitton of melee gear to even make it worth it, otherwise you're better off just sitting in the back and resting because you're going to get more MP back in the long run.

IF you somehow have amazing melee gear, you'll want to sub NIN, wear a Kraken Club (which honestly shouldn't be too hard for a Mythic owner to get) and spam the fuck out of Mystic Boon at 100% TP. You'll get a pretty decent amount of MP back because the damage on Yagrush is pretty high for a 1h weapon. I was going to comment that you'd have an almost constant accuracy boost from the aftermath, but it seems SE fucked WHM over on that aspect and made the level 1 aftermath "Magic Accuracy" instead of regular accuracy. Plus, with this new update, if you have whatever that new ability is enabled, you'll have another almost constant accuracy bonus from missing a swing on your Kraken.

*DISCLAIMER*

SHIT IS SITUATIONAL!!! Don't go fucking meeling Cerberus or Khim or some shit unless you enjoy hitting for 5 damage and Mystic Booning for 40 MP return. You should only be meeling in Assaults/Salvage/Nyzul, Limbus/Dynamis or Merit Parties (and maybe a few more things).

[Demosthenes11]

every time I hear the argument "well do you NEED it to do xxx!?!?" I think I die a little more inside

[Izzy]

every time I hear the argument "well do you NEED it to do xxx!?!?" I think I die a little more inside

Which post are you referring to?

[Ramzii]

Does Yagrush allow you to erase out of party also? that would be sex.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Izzy, the WHM Relic/Mythic + Kraken Club Group (the Rich Club Club) is not big enough to strategize for and give warnings when not to use it.

Does Yagrush allow you to erase out of party also? that would be sex.

Having never touched one I can tell you 100% that no, it wont let you cast party only buffs outside of party.

[Aksannyi]

Oh my God I just realized how fucking awesome a Yagrush would be for Dynamis-Tavnazia...

fuck you nightmare leeches fuck you fuck you fuck you

THISSSSS

Seriously being WHM in Dyna Tav and in Einherjar is enough to make me want this mythic, mobs spamming TP moves and the horrid timer on Erase x6 means people just have shit on them I can't get to. Yagrush is my dream come true. DO. WANT. Getting the Divine Veil effect anywhere else is just icing on the cake, I want this shit for Einherjar SO BAD.

[Izzy]

Izzy, the WHM Relic/Mythic + Kraken Club Group (the Rich Club Club) is not big enough to strategize for and give warnings when not to use it.

I wasn't giving a warning for a "Rich Club Club", I was writing it so dumbass WHM don't come on here thinking they can melee everything under the sun because they have Mystic Boon now.

You've been especially anti-Izzy lately lol.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I wasn't giving a warning for a "Rich Club Club", I was writing it so dumbass WHM don't come on here thinking they can melee everything under the sun because they have Mystic Boon now.

You've been especially anti-Izzy lately lol.

Sorry, it's nothing personal, it's just the concept of talking seriously about a 200mil weapon combo makes my head hurt.

[Izzy]

Sorry, it's nothing personal, it's just the concept of talking seriously about a 200mil weapon combo makes my head hurt.

If someone has already spent 150mil plus asstons of time getting the items/points/titles for a situational mythic, what's another 50mil? lol

[Colenzo]

Source?

And did anyone really not know what the whm weapon did? We were told and shown months ago. It was probably the only mythic where we had info on the effect.

Perma Divine veil is nifty. But would i rather spend 90 mil and a year to aoe status remove? Or less than 1 mil and 2 months to level SCH? I chose the latter, in order to focus my efforts on something else.

And I'm really racking my brain, trying to think of situations where rapidly removing aoe status is critical. 4 charges from SCH generally handles it. And even *if* Esuna requires a WHM to have that status on (which sounds kinda silly), it's a simple matter to stand in aoe range, ie, flayers.

Can anyone seriously think of a situation where rapid aoe status removal is critical that a SCH or Esuna couldn't handle?

I'd honestly rather have a WHM mythic that enhanced cure and regen potency. 20% for both on a 1-hand weapon, would have been sexy.

Its meant to compliment the job, not be an item that everyone should aim for and have and feel bad for not having.

[Fredjan]

Leeches - Atttack Down - Einerhjar

Yagrush = destroys the hell out of SCH

QFT.

This is the reason I am working towards one myself. I do Einherjar often and have mobs that require the need for spamming Erase. With this, I could do that and focus on cures. Sometimes, focusing on cures is more important than erasing, depending on damage being done to players. That just ends up slowing the run down. Then again, having dead people just slows the run down even more.

That, and I'm not expecting Esuna to remove stuff Erase can. SE isn't stupid enough to make a mythic weapon that has arguably more potential than most mythics worthless.. least I'd hope. The main reason people go after Yagrush is Erasega, and the main reason I wanted one. It is nice to see that it works similar to SCH's AoE ability though, meaning it can work on other parties if you're casting on a member of that party and not just the pt the Yagrush WHM is in.

I think yall should just be glad square finally came up with a decent ultimate caster weapon after the colossal failure of claustrum.

Fixed.

Mjollnir is actually more useful than a Claustrum (by how much is another debate so I'm not going there ), so Claustrum has the title of colossal failure, and Laevateinn joins it on that too, because I can put 5% or LESS of the effort into HQ staves which beat it without even trying.

I'd also rather upgrade a Yagrush than level SCH to main heal and use charges to remove statuses easier. Then again, I hate healing on RDM. I feel GIMP if I'm not healing on White Mage. Period.