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  1. #3341
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAKPluto View Post
    erase.

    Does Yagrush ignore the "party only" of it?
    doesn't.

    which means the "out of party" people are fapping over is relatively zzz.

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    It's not truly novel for WHM either, it's just on a 10 minute timer unless you have Yagrush. Apparently a lot of the posters here don't realize this, but normal plain Divine Veil that every high level WHM gets lets you Paralyna-ga or Silena-ga *anyone's* party, alliance or not. Divine Veil doesn't change the target restriction on Erase, and neither will Yagrush. It doesn't say "Augments Erase" on the item, I have no idea why people are getting these crazy ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zosi View Post
    It's not truly novel for WHM either, it's just on a 10 minute timer unless you have Yagrush.
    Can you name another item in this game that reduces the cooldown timer of a useful JA from 10 minutes to nothing? I'd say that's pretty novel.

  4. #3344
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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    Can you name another item in this game that reduces the cooldown timer of a useful JA from 10 minutes to nothing? I'd say that's pretty novel.
    I think zosi is saying that being able to -na outside of the party isn't novel because this has always been a feature of Divine Veil, not that Yagrush itself isn't novel.

    Edit: Also, grats Sai! A great WHM gets better.

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    The mentality of people that say this isn't worth is that of the effort put in is so much greater than the reward. That's the way FFXI is, though. Every single novelty item wanted and or needed in the game is ridiculously outweighed by the effort in obtaining said item. Relics are in no way game breaking. They are the best weapon for that category, but all is fair in the game. The thing about FFXI, and the reason people think like Zosi is simply because it's true.

    Take WoW for example(HERE IT COMES HURRRRR)- you have a full t7.5 fury warrior with demise/titansteel destroyer(idk wars tbh, just guessing these maces are nice), and another fury warrior with some heroics and maybe a few purples. In any raid, the t7.5 warrior would absolutely chew up, ass rape, spit out and completely destroy the other warrior in dps. This is taking into consideration that both of them play well. Getting the gear that the t7.5 warrior has would take a few months(simple because 25 mans have a wait time before you can run again, and competition etc.). This is for the entire set.

    Now, back to FFXI. Two melees that both have the same skill, but completely different gear. Apoc DRK, homam, ebody, aces, velo, cerb+1, NQ heca etc whatever for WS. Average DRK, dusk, haub, turban, swift, forager's, NQ heca not really as good WS set. How would these parse up in a merit party? Obvioulsy the apoc DRK will do better, but he will not destroy the other DRK. Now, think of the amount of time it'd take to get what the apoc DRK has. Don't you think having all of those items he would do what the warrior did? He should.

    What I'm trying to get at is that FFXI is setup for mediocrity. The game is horrible. Some people are already balls deep and don't really want to quit. I enjoy the game as do most people, but if you look back and really think about what you're working for and the outcome of your work it's kind of depressing. This is why people have that mentality. Years of camping, 12+ hours of gameplay a day for an item that is in no way worth it. Everyone knows that WoW's quality is mountains better than FFXI, but it's just a different taste in gameplay. Some people accept that items will never be nearly as good as the work put into them, and others can't accept the fact that no item in FFXI will ever be nearly as good as they want it to be. I guess you just take what you get, and learn eventually that expecting more than you know you're going to recieve is just a bad thing when it comes to this game.



    hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    What I'm trying to get at is that FFXI is setup for mediocrity. The game is horrible.
    Dear god, get the fuck out with this shit.

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    Also, you're fucking stupid if you don't think an apoc DRK will destroy an NQ walmart DRK. You must not know ANY competent Apocalypse holders, AT ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrift View Post
    I am very impressed with this mythic. Glad to see one mythic really shine. Almost seems like... Yagrush is the Aegis of mythics... if that makes any sense.
    I think all WHMs have been waiting a year for everyone else to realize this. And this was even before finding out all the rest were so shitty. Yagrush is a beast.

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    Dead horse, etc., but if we're talking about something that drastically changes the capabilities of a job, the relic you're looking for is a sword, not a shield.

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    Well, the fact that k-club beats apoc in a zerg and it way cheaper is one example that he can use. relics should be the end all be all of all weapons in the entire game. I agree with everything in his post and its well written.
    The only thing I did not agree with is him saying FFXI is horrible but he plays it everyday.

    Anyway back to yagrush.

    Nyzul isle erasing soulflayers AOE bio. This bio is horrible!
    Einherjar- Erasing blindga, bindga, attack down AOEs and Slow AOEs will save ALOT of time in einherjar, possibly 5 extra mins you can use towards the boss.

    Sea-Asc. Burst, although it doesn't last long.
    ISNM- The puks AOE flash which causes the DDs to miss weaponskills lol.
    Dynamis- Attack down, slow, and blind. Dynamis xarca/tavna.

    Not sure what happens if you divine veil an (AOE already) esuna... We will have to see.

    I still think this weapon should have cure potency 10%, then people can use a 1 handed potency weapon and be able to dual wield with k-club to have fun in some areas. Then i would have rated it a 10/10.
    But yagrush gets a 9/10 from me. Best mythic so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtype954 View Post
    I still think this weapon should have cure potency 10%, then people can use a 1 handed potency weapon and be able to dual wield with k-club to have fun in some areas. Then i would have rated it a 10/10.
    But yagrush gets a 9/10 from me. Best mythic so far.
    While the magic accuracy is pretty worthless, with the addition of roundel earring you can still get 17% potency full time and 27% with latent.

    The act of being /nin will gimp your curing proficiency far more then 10% potency.

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    Congrats Maches :3 I'm so proud of my little brother.

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    He doesnt full time that right?

    Grats none the less, nice looking pld.

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    im curious to know if its possible to have 2 aftermath effects, amano/yoichi / any other jobs that can actually get away with 2 relics. and does kaiten > namas > kaiten or anything like that work? or is there a need for a kasha on that too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    It's Enmity+ with haste, Refresh, a little Fast Cast, lots of HP, and no Enmity-, designed for casting Erase with Yagrush pretty much, as it was topical. It's designed to keep HP up above 1600 in the event of an unfortunate TP move/crit combo. You could probably use Nashira Seraweels instead of Yigit, I just stuck that on there because I haven't played in months and was never a WHM.

    You'd be near capped recast with it on and you'd have near-max Enmity+ for WHM. I'm not a fan of Toreador's Cape, figured no WHM would get Sattva, assumed 5% Haste from w-turban outdid Rival Ribbon's 2 Enmity, and didn't want to be assuming Night/Day at the same time so I avoided Fenrir's Cape. Meanwhile recast timers are capped and HP is above 1600 without food. If I had all that crap, that's what I'd Erase in (possibly with N.Seraweels.)
    Macros. Use them.

    Regardless, any tanking-oriented Yagrush-wielder would be a fool to use Erase. Poisona has a significantly lower cost, is nearly an instant cast, and is literally an instant recast, making attention to recast times completely inconsequential, making not casting in as much additional enmity possible foolish.

    And while I realize White Mage isn't quite as durable as Red Mage(not by a large margin, mind you), 1,600 HP is 600 more than I ever tanked in, and I never had any issues of the sort.

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    finally

    congrats even though i dont like you still

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    ok I'm obviously doing something wrong, my FFXI registry is all setup and my shots *still* don't look that clear.

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    should have upgraded excalibur™

    here we go again

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