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  1. #3361
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    whm mythic destroys sch period, just by the fact that you dont need any stratagem charges to do the same stuff and by the fact that sch needs twice the MP to do the same (not to mention the double recast timer on erase!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckethead View Post
    should have upgraded excalibur™

    here we go again
    Probably would have if I hadn't already traded 10k Alex to the NPC when Aftermaths were discovered to work how they do. Figured I might as well finish it at that point. I might work on Excal next; otherwise it's Apoc once I pay off some debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    Probably would have if I hadn't already traded 10k Alex to the NPC when Aftermaths were discovered to work how they do. Figured I might as well finish it at that point. I might work on Excal next; otherwise it's Apoc once I pay off some debt.
    Nice job Diomer and nice looking pld. Im kinda in the same boat, but Im actually starting to get excited about burtgang as I get a bit closer. If anything, it is still an awesome looking sword lol. Havent decided wether I want to do excal after burtgang Q.Q.

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    Burtgang is a great sword, congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Nice job Diomer and nice looking pld. Im kinda in the same boat, but Im actually starting to get excited about burtgang as I get a bit closer. If anything, it is still an awesome looking sword lol. Havent decided wether I want to do excal after burtgang Q.Q.
    See i got sort of the same thing >_> I am @ 30k Alexs packing my mules up but i could sell them and basicly pay for excal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    whm mythic destroys sch period, just by the fact that you dont need any stratagem charges to do the same stuff and by the fact that sch needs twice the MP to do the same (not to mention the double recast timer on erase!)
    I think you missed the part where that's the balance in the gem.

  7. #3367
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Burtgang is a great sword, congrats.
    Actually, it's a sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Actually, it's a sword.
    I laughed a little harder than I should have at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Actually, it's a sword.
    Almost spit out my OJ lol

  10. #3370
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    Yagrush is a decent weapon. Then again, so is Ragnarok and Claustraum.

    Any situation where aoe status needs removing more than once a minute, is a situation where mp is wasted trying to remove it more than once a minute. 90 mil for a macro piece that comes in handy maybe... 1% of the time? Einherjar and Dynamis-Tav leeches and that's it? Or spend 90 mil on things that give larger improvements?

    I suppose, if you don't plan to level any other jobs, and you have HQ'd every other piece of gear you own, so you have 90 mil sitting around to afford on a toy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    Yagrush is a decent weapon. Then again, so is Ragnarok and Claustraum.

    Any situation where aoe status needs removing more than once a minute, is a situation where mp is wasted trying to remove it more than once a minute. 90 mil for a macro piece that comes in handy maybe... 1% of the time? Einherjar and Dynamis-Tav leeches and that's it? Or spend 90 mil on things that give larger improvements?

    I suppose, if you don't plan to level any other jobs, and you have HQ'd every other piece of gear you own, so you have 90 mil sitting around to afford on a toy...
    You and I surely must not be playing the same game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    Yagrush is a decent weapon. Then again, so is Ragnarok and Claustraum.

    Any situation where aoe status needs removing more than once a minute, is a situation where mp is wasted trying to remove it more than once a minute. 90 mil for a macro piece that comes in handy maybe... 1% of the time? Einherjar and Dynamis-Tav leeches and that's it? Or spend 90 mil on things that give larger improvements?

    I suppose, if you don't plan to level any other jobs, and you have HQ'd every other piece of gear you own, so you have 90 mil sitting around to afford on a toy...
    I'm sorry, but do you even have WHM leveled to 75?

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    LOL 90m relic/mys more like 130m give or take

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    Any situation where aoe status needs removing more than once a minute, is a situation where mp is wasted trying to remove it more than once a minute. 90 mil for a macro piece that comes in handy maybe... 1% of the time? Einherjar and Dynamis-Tav leeches and that's it? Or spend 90 mil on things that give larger improvements?
    - Dynamis with BST pet spell spam: Blindga, Breakga, Paralyga, Silencega.
    - Cerberus: Ululation or unstunned Gates of Hades.
    - Hydra: Nerve Gas, Barofield.
    - Khimaira: Unstunned Fulmination.
    - Tiamat: Tebbad Wing
    - Ouryu: Bai Wing
    - Soulflayers: Tribulation, Immortal Anathema
    - Wyverns: Dread Shriek
    - Tigers: Roar
    - Puks: Obfsuscate (Erase can remove Flash)
    - Ghrah: Actinic Burst
    - Wivre: Demoralizing Roar
    - Gurfurlur the Menacing: Pleiades Ray
    - Gulool Ja Ja: Miasma
    - Medusa: Gorgon Dance
    - Trolls: Enervation
    - Dvergr (admittedly small sample): Cackle, Necrobane, Necropurge, Bilgestorm
    - Proto-Omega: Hyper Pulse, Target Analysis, Flood Light, Guided Missile (II)
    - Spellcasters: Diaga, Poisonga

    Do I need to go on?

  15. #3375
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    Can someone please just ban Kenji and Destinye already. They never have anything relevant to post, just stupid flame-bait shit which clearly shows they have no idea wtf they're talking about to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    Do I need to go on?
    but what are the odds you'll encounter that stuff on a regular basis unless you're an elitist asshole who does endgame for more than 26 hours a day, AND THATS NOT HOW I WANT TO SPEND MY 13.99 I'm much happier going rdm/drk to exp parties and spamming SE vorpal blade.

    PS: Gratz Kirschy took you long enough! time to head to gusta and start testing =o Spoilered for size
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    sorry tekki couldn't resist =x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji View Post
    Yagrush is a decent weapon. Then again, so is Ragnarok and Claustraum.

    Any situation where aoe status needs removing more than once a minute, is a situation where mp is wasted trying to remove it more than once a minute. 90 mil for a macro piece that comes in handy maybe... 1% of the time? Einherjar and Dynamis-Tav leeches and that's it? Or spend 90 mil on things that give larger improvements?

    I suppose, if you don't plan to level any other jobs, and you have HQ'd every other piece of gear you own, so you have 90 mil sitting around to afford on a toy...
    I guess your only endgame experience is going to merit on colibris... there are countless situations you really need lots of AoE -na spells, they are the majority in this game btw!
    every endgame activity has them:
    Salvage: Chariots, gears, some different mobs in there
    Dynamis: pets enough said
    HNMS: every HNM has an AoE move that is sucktastic, ecxept for aspi and KB.
    Einherjar: explains itself

    these are just some examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkslitter View Post
    but what are the odds you'll encounter that stuff on a regular basis unless you're an elitist asshole who does endgame for more than 26 hours a a day[/spoiler]
    Well uh ..... having a Yagrush kind of implies you're one of the elite, asshole has nothing to do with it unless you're just jealous. But really, I'm starting to question if you do anything but merit.

    Salvage, Limbus, Einherjar, Dynamis, NMs and HNMs, hell ... even Campaign, you encounter frequent AoE debuffs in virtually every single situation in the game, INCLUDING regular XP. This would open up a ton of new camps. So to answer your question, the odds are almost 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinta View Post
    Well uh ..... having a Yagrush kind of implies you're one of the elite, asshole has nothing to do with it unless you're just jealous. But really, I'm starting to question if you do anything but merit.

    Salvage, Limbus, Einherjar, Dynamis, NMs and HNMs, hell ... even Campaign, you encounter frequent AoE debuffs in virtually every single situation in the game, INCLUDING regular XP. This would open up a ton of new camps. So to answer your question, the odds are almost 100%.
    Try reading his post again, maybe you can detect a hint of sarcasm.

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    Hrmph, yesterday in Einherjar we got Ghosts then Flayers, and you best believe every WHM in the ls was wishing they had Yagrush. You just can't keep up with it otherwise. At least shit doesn't get more potent if you get hit with it multiple times.

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