Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Jakson]

This still doesn't answer why the other people in the lowman group don't have five relics.

I'd like to know this too, but then it reminds me of that other thread that turned into a bitchfest about why leaders/sacks get more gil/gear/priority than regular members.

[Rida]

Regardless of what is said for or against this most of the haters wont believe anyway. But for the record Ive transferred from the Stan's Server to join Wopaco and my lets say my eyes have been opened to what can truely be achieved in this game by the means of lowmanning and sheer supply and demand. Wopaco does have alot of Relics besides Wopa's 5 including several JP members with 2/3 each. If you think we all help for nothing your sadly mistaken ^^ but still youll believe what you like ^^.

[[Cookies]]

This still doesn't answer why the other people in the lowman group don't have five relics.

No.. because the only things in this game that are expensive are relics. Even if they only have one, they could have spent a lot of money on other things; AV items, mythic weapons, HQ gear (Dalm +1, Dusk Gloves +1, V Belt, all of these are expensive!).

They may only want one relic. If for instance they have a favourite job that they only ever play and want to pimp out said job, why would they upgrade more relics?

[Ruiner]

No.. because the only things in this game that are expensive are relics. Even if they only have one, they could have spent a lot of money on other things; AV items, mythic weapons, HQ gear (Dalm +1, Dusk Gloves +1, V Belt, all of these are expensive!).

They may only want one relic. If for instance they have a favourite job that they only ever play and want to pimp out said job, why would they upgrade more relics?

"Five relics" was just an example. The difference in gear between Wopa and his minions are quite apparent, relic count notwithstanding.

[Valisk]

If he wants to tax his members and they're dumb enough to fall for it, by all means do it! If people I associated with were that dumb, I'd take advantage of them too!

In all honesty, if he actually does that, I wouldn't have a problem if I was getting boat loads of gil too. Even if all members got a payout of 5M a week and Wopa got 8M just cause, I'd rather stay and get that 5M per week than leave to satisfy QQs on BG and get zero gil a week. Maybe I'm greedy, or have no morals/integrity/insertyourjudgmenthere, but that's how I view it.

For example (no this isn't the RL card), I'm not going to quit my job and be unemployed because the boss is making a little more than me. Wouldn't that be silly of me to give up my well paying job for nothing? Now if there are alternatives, then sure you might be compelled to take them. But if there aren't, then what are you gonna do? (rhetorical)

And I think I've flip flopped on this issue from things I've said in the past. But oh well, sue me.

[Almalexia]

It is a pretty good scythe.

[drwaffles]

I think you're missing the point; it's not about the fact that he's getting more than the rest of his members, it's that, from what we can see anyway, he's getting an absolute metric shit-ton more than the rest of them. To continue your analogy, if an individual you freelanced with on a regular basis (who was the organiser, not really an employer as such) was taking enormous cuts of all profits for himself, wouldn't you be even a little bit pissed off?

Of course, this is all speculation and every Wopa-cynic could be completely mistaken, however the fact that the leader/members of the LS don't appear to be prepared to challenge the accusations made against him means people are entitled to wonder about the mechanics of their loot distribution. I'm not saying they're necessarily obliged in any way to address people's speculation, but unless they do people are perfectly justified to voice their opinions.

[Seraphus]

But I think wopa has enough money that if he wasn't putting it back into the economy SOMEHOW it'd cause an economic crisis after he eventually gets 99% of the server's gil.

[Valisk]

I dont think I'm missing the point at all. If I have the opportunity to earn 5M per week doing shit that people in other LSs do on a daily basis verses earning 1M per week farming or w/e, I'm going to take the 5M option. Give Wopa 20M a week idc, as long as I'm getting my 5M. Call me a mindless sheep but I'm getting my 5M wool shampooed weekly.

To add to my analogy, that Microsoft secretary isn't going to quit her million dollar position because she isn't making Bill Gates money. She is going to stick with her overpaid salary and lucrative stock options as oppose to quitting and getting a regular secretary job doing the same shit but 25 times less money.

[Ruiner]

To add to my analogy, that Microsoft secretary isn't going to quit her million dollar position because she isn't making Bill Gates money. She is going to stick with her overpaid salary and lucrative stock options as oppose to quitting and getting a regular secretary job doing the same shit but 25 times less money.

This is a flawed analogy, you assume a secretary and Bill Gates do the same thing.

[Cow_k]

How about people make a new thread if they want to continue arguing about wopa? At least take the yawnfest somewhere else.

[MillionDollarMan]

I don't know why people think others get something out of helping somebody get 5 relics. Look @ Roundhouse.

I have no idea how Papy got 4 relics but it seems like he is the only person that got 4 with no help.

[Valisk]

This is a flawed analogy, you assume a secretary and Bill Gates do the same thing.

You are assuming that the rest of the shell does the exact same thing as Wopa. I ASSUME that Wopa (Bill Gates) does something different than the rest of the shell (secretaries). Whether it's track attendance, points, gil. Set prices, find buyers, organize events. Shell disciple, moral, etc.

But the point was that the secretary wouldn't leave to do the same job elsewhere for a ridiculously lower amount of money.

[MillionDollarMan]

You are assuming that the rest of the shell does the exact same thing as Wopa. I ASSUME that Wopa (Bill Gates) does something different than the rest of the shell (secretaries). Whether it's track attendance, points, gil. Set prices, find buyers, organize events. Shell disciple, moral, etc.

But the point was that the secretary wouldn't leave to do the same job elsewhere for a ridiculously lower amount of money.

Relic Weapons - FFXIAH.com

Relic Weapons - FFXIAH.com

Relic Weapons - FFXIAH.com

[Valisk]

What's your point? Just cause Bill Gates buys a new Lamborghini doesn't mean the secretary wants to. And like I said, I (personal, singular) wouldn't leave 5M per week for 0M per week.

[MillionDollarMan]

What's your point? Just cause Bill Gates buys a new Lamborghini doesn't mean the secretary wants to. And like I said, I (personal, singular) wouldn't leave 5M per week for 0M per week.

Maybe the website is wrong but it looks like wopa has more than the rest of the linkshell combined. When you look at other ls they seem to be on a even playing field.

[Ohaigaiz]

In this sense, beggars can't be choosers. I'm sure that if it was really as bad as people claim it to be in Wopa's LS, they'd leave. They can cross-server apply to a different linkshell. Why don't they? Because they are probably getting more shit than if they were to join another linkshell. If any of you are event linkshell leaders you know it is a bitch to set up all the bullshit that comes with being a leader. So what if he takes a huge chunk of profit, his linkshell members are probably getting a fuck ton even with him taking a lot of profit.

[Valisk]

Maybe the website is wrong but it looks like wopa has more than the rest of the linkshell combined. When you look at other ls they seem to be on a even playing field.

The website is correct but my points still stand. 1) Not everyone wants a relic. 2) They are getting considerably more than they could elsewhere. 3) I wouldn't leave if I was in their situation.

[Izzy]

If you believe that Wopa taking more gil from stuff than his members, that's fine. But guess what? It's not up to you. The members in his LS are making the choice and do have the opportunity to leave if they do not like it. If the system is working in his LS and the majority of his people are happy, who are you to say he's doing it wrong?

[Tsuko_Asura]

If you believe that Wopa taking more gil from stuff than his members, that's fine. But guess what? It's not up to you. The members in his LS are making the choice and do have the opportunity to leave if they do not like it. If the system is working in his LS and the majority of his people are happy, who are you to say he's doing it wrong?

Because they're not in his linkshell, and subsequently, aren't banking the way they are.