Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[fren.]

I must defend Wopa here. His achievement is substantial. He got a large group of people to join what is essentially a private Tiamat farming static for his personal benefit and has them believe they are in an HNM linkshell. These players sacrifice their playtime to monopolize gaiters for him and acquiesce to him retaining a disproportional share of the profit while he doesn't even camp.

Making an arrangement like that work takes considerable psychological skill and insight into player motivation. How do you acquire and retain the indispensable PLDs for example? Wopa's solution is brilliant - monopolize Khimaira in addition to Timmy. Exclusive server control of Khim means you'll have an endless supply of PLDs who can't wait to camp Timmy for you in the uncertain hope that you'll let them lot a Hauteclaire some day.

This subtle but effective member control mechanism is aided and enabled by a designed total absence of point system, charter, lotting rules or any other kind of mechanism by which members could hold their leader accountable. Item and gil rewards are granted or withheld indefinitely solely at the leader's discretion, creating an environment where members must compete for the leader's personal favor. As in all types of societies ruled by the whims of an all-powerful leader, expression of dissent or dissatisfaction over loot distribution tends to be rare.

The design of this power structure is elegant and sophisticated as it involves no apparent coercion of members. Indeed, the linkshell name leaves no doubt as to the priorities of the group and the identity of the primary beneficiary of all linkshell activity. No member can claim to be unaware of the nature of the group.

A naive observer might expect such a group to disintegrate within a very short period of time. Members who perceive that the leader enriches himself at their expense would tend to leave quickly. Indeed, it takes a delicate touch to find just the right balance of withholding and granting rewards so that average member time to burnout is reduced to the level needed where personnel attrition and recruitment are in equilibrium.

Wopa deserves praise for recognizing and acting on the critical need to recruit members from other servers once he had approached the point where he had burnt through most server natives. Cross-server recruitment opened up an almost limitless labor pool that was largely unexposed to negative word of mouth and easily impressed by Pravda-style front pages and linkshell loot lists inflated by counting items recruits acquired outside the linkshell.

Wopadobop is well on track to be the first and only player in FFXI to own all 16 relics. He has created a unique and highly effective support structure to finance this project. I applaud him for this singular achievement.

lol

[Odin'sLaw]

Wopa's a decent guy on the whole, but if your in his ls and you Question him you go bye bye

so if your in pretty much the biggest ls on Pandy

(Kupo been second then there land king ls Kclub been third)

you'll stick around for something you want be it a seveneyes or a Algol,
you don't really care that Wopa's making xtimes more gil then you,
your just happy when you finally get your new toy.

[Nyerieri]

It's none of anyones business how they handle their linkshell. Start another thread if you want to bitch how wopa does things, can we get back on track?

Edit: Why hasn't a mod deleted all the bitching yet? lol. Like it says in the rules, no bitchin, flaming qq'n etc

[Grieverao]

Wopa are minus at least 1 relic as of Tuesday.

And 19 total? Yeah...

For the record I got np with Wopa and his relics. Lvl1 with relic? Boring. But that aside, I don't see why we have so much debate on this subject. Big fucking deal. I'm more annoyed at Izi and his overeago than Wopa's #5.

Drop it and get posting more relics!

[Titanss]

Well thought out burn, but it lacks some wittiness, ill give it 3 stars.

3 and a half

Edit : Fornax aren't u that guy that forced your LS to camp VV for you and deduct crazy DKP if they dodged the camps? lulz

[0ni0n]

I must defend Wopa here. His achievement is substantial. He got a large group of people to join what is essentially a private Tiamat farming static for his personal benefit and has them believe they are in an HNM linkshell. These players sacrifice their playtime to monopolize gaiters for him and acquiesce to him retaining a disproportional share of the profit while he doesn't even camp.

Making an arrangement like that work takes considerable psychological skill and insight into player motivation. How do you acquire and retain the indispensable PLDs for example? Wopa's solution is brilliant - monopolize Khimaira in addition to Timmy. Exclusive server control of Khim means you'll have an endless supply of PLDs who can't wait to camp Timmy for you in the uncertain hope that you'll let them lot a Hauteclaire some day.

This subtle but effective member control mechanism is aided and enabled by a designed total absence of point system, charter, lotting rules or any other kind of mechanism by which members could hold their leader accountable. Item and gil rewards are granted or withheld indefinitely solely at the leader's discretion, creating an environment where members must compete for the leader's personal favor. As in all types of societies ruled by the whims of an all-powerful leader, expression of dissent or dissatisfaction over loot distribution tends to be rare.

The design of this power structure is elegant and sophisticated as it involves no apparent coercion of members. Indeed, the linkshell name leaves no doubt as to the priorities of the group and the identity of the primary beneficiary of all linkshell activity. No member can claim to be unaware of the nature of the group.

A naive observer might expect such a group to disintegrate within a very short period of time. Members who perceive that the leader enriches himself at their expense would tend to leave quickly. Indeed, it takes a delicate touch to find just the right balance of withholding and granting rewards so that average member time to burnout is reduced to the level needed where personnel attrition and recruitment are in equilibrium.

Wopa deserves praise for recognizing and acting on the critical need to recruit members from other servers once he had approached the point where he had burnt through most server natives. Cross-server recruitment opened up an almost limitless labor pool that was largely unexposed to negative word of mouth and easily impressed by Pravda-style front pages and linkshell loot lists inflated by counting items recruits acquired outside the linkshell.

Wopadobop is well on track to be the first and only player in FFXI to own all 16 relics. He has created a unique and highly effective support structure to finance this project. I applaud him for this singular achievement.

kudos, 4/5 for genuine effort.

[Odin'sLaw]

Mini make a pair of Kenkokens D: do it man!

[Malacite]

Manipulative assholes like that should be banned from online gaming entirely.

[Aksannyi]

Then there wouldn't be anyone left.

[Redshift]

I must defend Wopa here. His achievement is substantial. He got a large group of people to join what is essentially a private Tiamat farming static for his personal benefit and has them believe they are in an HNM linkshell. These players sacrifice their playtime to monopolize gaiters for him and acquiesce to him retaining a disproportional share of the profit while he doesn't even camp.

Making an arrangement like that work takes considerable psychological skill and insight into player motivation. How do you acquire and retain the indispensable PLDs for example? Wopa's solution is brilliant - monopolize Khimaira in addition to Timmy. Exclusive server control of Khim means you'll have an endless supply of PLDs who can't wait to camp Timmy for you in the uncertain hope that you'll let them lot a Hauteclaire some day.

This subtle but effective member control mechanism is aided and enabled by a designed total absence of point system, charter, lotting rules or any other kind of mechanism by which members could hold their leader accountable. Item and gil rewards are granted or withheld indefinitely solely at the leader's discretion, creating an environment where members must compete for the leader's personal favor. As in all types of societies ruled by the whims of an all-powerful leader, expression of dissent or dissatisfaction over loot distribution tends to be rare.

The design of this power structure is elegant and sophisticated as it involves no apparent coercion of members. Indeed, the linkshell name leaves no doubt as to the priorities of the group and the identity of the primary beneficiary of all linkshell activity. No member can claim to be unaware of the nature of the group.

A naive observer might expect such a group to disintegrate within a very short period of time. Members who perceive that the leader enriches himself at their expense would tend to leave quickly. Indeed, it takes a delicate touch to find just the right balance of withholding and granting rewards so that average member time to burnout is reduced to the level needed where personnel attrition and recruitment are in equilibrium.

Wopa deserves praise for recognizing and acting on the critical need to recruit members from other servers once he had approached the point where he had burnt through most server natives. Cross-server recruitment opened up an almost limitless labor pool that was largely unexposed to negative word of mouth and easily impressed by Pravda-style front pages and linkshell loot lists inflated by counting items recruits acquired outside the linkshell.

Wopadobop is well on track to be the first and only player in FFXI to own all 16 relics. He has created a unique and highly effective support structure to finance this project. I applaud him for this singular achievement.

Obviously jealous.

[Rhinox]

3 and a half

Edit : Fornax aren't u that guy that forced your LS to camp VV for you and deduct crazy DKP if they dodged the camps? lulz

Wrong. Lulz

If you're gonna try to own someone maybe fact check before you post it.

[Afrohatch]

I think at this point, Wopa's deliberately upgrading shit just to watch you guys squirm...seriously, after EVERY SINGLE pic he posts of a new relic, there's 2 pages of QQing over it lol

[frodnonnag]

I think at this point, Wopa's deliberately upgrading shit just to watch you guys squirm...seriously, after EVERY SINGLE pic he posts of a new relic, there's 2 pages of QQing over it lol

fun, isn't it?

[Vigilia]

Can't believe none of the guys posted this last night:

Vyvyan - Asura - Spharai.

Pic by Linkx, I'm sure someone will grab a gearshot soon enough or check Vyvy's FFXIAH profile.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...3-45-47-03.jpg

[LiquidFriend]

ITT: Kupo member butt hurt over Wopa selling gaiters. Regardless if wopa is really hoarding all the gil from sold gaiters and what not, they still seem to have rather good retention of members. They seem to have no problem with it, so who cares?

[BlaizeAsura]

Can't believe none of the guys posted this last night:

Vyvyan - Asura - Spharai.

Pic by Linkx, I'm sure someone will grab a gearshot soon enough or check Vyvy's FFXIAH profile.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...3-45-47-03.jpg

I was tired so went to bed instead!

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...107_234421.jpg

Grats Vyv.

[Tomiko]

NQ BB!?

Very nicely geared Mnk, grats!

[The Stig]

Vigilia: That is one of the coolest screenshots I've seen for a while. I like that "setting". Very...epic.

[Vigilia]

Vigilia: That is one of the coolest screenshots I've seen for a while. I like that "setting". Very...epic.

All credit to Linkx, he's our resident LS photographer. His photobucket. He's got about a dozen folders full of nice screenshots, that Spharai shot is one of the best ones imo too.

[Leolai]

Big Congratulations Vyv on your Spharai!

Was quite an epic setting for the Spharai yes, fought our way to the top etc.

Vyv is also Chroma's resident whitebox. ^^b