Brd question, skill vs chr etc.

[Kaiyoko]

I know how you feel . I lend out my NQ whenever a nin forgets theirs at events and I plan to get Alkalurops whenever I get off of my anti-brd mood or if HNMs magically leave time zone (which never happens lol.)

Lol, thats the reason she has it, I never remember mine so I just leave it on her cause she is always at an event if it's me or her logged on.

[Skjie]

Focus on Limbus for Chl Cuffs+1.

[Kroot]

errant or osode > sha'ir for debuffs

[Rama]

Ty for the advice :D Much appreciated.

I'm also thinking we'll probably have her get marduk head at this rate because of the fact that we never do city zones anymore @_@.

Getting those for my brd should be fun considering she might not even have hers by then with the salvage drop rates.

Something to consider, look/ask around for some established dynamis shells that do cities often. It would be much cheaper and faster to purchase a city AF from them if they are capped than the cost of 12 ori ingots + assault point time + salvage time.

Muffin hat is not very far behind Princess Tiara.

That said, her gear as it stands should be fine for 90% of situations. Yes, sky gods and HNM will resist you, alot. They just do that. I'm not sure which HNM you are fighting besides sky gods, but if you are curious about "should I be able to elegy Mob-x?" just ask and you'll get some good information.

[Bardlet]

I forget what the exact numbers were for song tiers, but x-amount of combined singing + wind skill enhances march. The highest known tiers of march can only be obtained with a ghorn. I think Sylphet (brd queen ) might know this info very well.

Edit for Rambus-like grammar ><

It's actually only reachable with Ghorn and merits:

From my own poking around and such:

Base skill: 450 (225+225)
Weapon: Chanter's Staff +4 Singing
Head: Marduk's Tiara +7 Singing
Neck: Wind Torque +7 Wind
Ear: Musical Earring +5 Wind
Ear: Wind/Singing Earring +3 Wind/Singing
Body: Minstrel's Coat +3 Wind
Hands: Choral Cuffs +1 +10 Singing
Ring: Nereid Ring +3 Wind
Ring: Nereid Ring +3 Wind
Back: Astute Cape +5 Singing
Legs: Choral Cannions +8 Wind
Feet: Oracle's Pigaches +5 Wind

Total: 513 (225+225+63 total skill) Missing 40 Skill

Gjallarhorn: +10 Wind, +10 Singing

Total: 533 (225+225+63+20 total skill) Missing 20 Skill

Singing Merits (+2 each upgrade) x5: +10 Singing
Wind Merits (+2 each upgrade) x5: +10 Wind

Total: 553 (225+225+63+20+20 total skill)

While this bring s you to 11.91% Haste (Victory March only), you're forgoing the speed of casting, which could hurt if something is spammy particularly with AoEs.

With base skill plus just gear, it brings you to 11.33%. It's roughly a .5% difference in speed, but requires 10 merit upgrades as well as a relic horn upgrade.

[Midnightjade]

A lot of BRDs I know get CHR up to 110-120, then pack on the skill to a combined 500+. According to that trend, your CHR is ok-ish (maybe slightly low but not bad), but your Singing and Wind skills are both pretty low. That might be your problem. To me that looks more like a meripo build than a stick-songs-on-big-monsters build.

Chl. Cuffs +1 would be a great start, and a Musical Earring, plus maybe a Nereid Ring, and BRD AF2 head or Marduk or Goli hat (latter has CHR but no skill on it), and Goli feet (+CHR) maybe. Also Sing + Wind merits, depending on what you have already and what you plan to use the character for in the future. You have to balance out the CHR and skills so that one doesn't suffer at the expense of the other.

Hope this helps, remember that it's based on current understanding which is a bit fragmentary at the best of times so ymmv. ^^

[Zhais]

Head slot: I don't have marduk, and don't have af2 head. What i use? Trump Crown. You lose the 5% haste (do you need it really when casting stuff like requiem and elegy?) and 3 hp/mp, and gain 2 chr.

Go buy yourself a demon helm

[Kaiyoko]

As far as the head went I think she has been using the opo-opo for the time being because of the head situation. Was using her in Einerjar so I wanted to be able to recast horde and foes quick.

So are the nerid rings x2 or omega/balrahn's better for debuffs? Some people were talking about the nerid and I thought the omega and balrahn's were better with for the enfeebs while nerid is for buffs.

Also messed with some things and got her to Chr 118 Skill 476.

hands: Af1+1. dunno what those are.

This-
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[Zhais]

As far as the head went I think she has been using the opo-opo when she doesn't for the time being. Was using her in Einerjar so I wanted to be able to recast horde and foes quick.

So are the nerid rings x2 or omega/balrahn's better for debuffs? Some people were talking about the nerid and I thought the omega and balrahn's were better with for the enfeebs while nerid is for buffs.

you're correct. omega/balrahns for debuffs, nereid for buffs

opo crown is decent, I still preferred to use demon helm til I got my af2 head.

[Ruiner]

Have demon helm, looks ugly, won't wear it. Sorry.

Marduk hands are nice, but i simply wouldn't give up the +skill on af1+1 hands.

and yeah, Opo with pamamas is still a nice piece no matter which way you stack it.

.DAT swap.

[Ruiner]

Why should i dat swap for a piece that I don't need? i can land elegy on kirin with the gear i have currently, and it works quite well. Also, last time i tried to datswap i had to reinstall, so f that.

And I can Silence Kirin naked. Your point? You're still willingly sacrificing efficiency for looks, which is fucking retarded when you can alter your looks easily by either fussing with the .DATs or Wardrobe.

[Zhais]

Macro it in for buffs/debuffs then switch back to pretty princess opo/trump crown


singing skill +5 is a damned decent increase for the price... I normally don't complain since hell, I don't have all the best of the best equip (working on it tho) but that's what, most of a march tier? close to 5 macc?

[Zhais]

I use trump crown for chr, why would I switch it off for debuffs? Also, Taco or =>

chr is useless on buffs, 5 skill will do more for magic acc than 2 chr.

just sayin'


Most other things I agree with you on, so not completely being argumentative >.> I only carry what instruments I need, don't need an mp set, no minstrels ring (tho I ALWAYS cast in gomlek unless spellcast decides it doesn't like me ), and I finish casts in goliard body since I don't own osode or houppelande. 3/3 on marduk jubbah piece tho just waiting for time to get ores -.-;;;;

[Kaiyoko]

Since we kinda started talking about buffs, it there a chart of the tiers anywhere for all spells?

[Zhais]

March and madrigal (I think) are the only ones that have been thoroughly found out, and the threads are somewhere in advanced discussion.

[Kroot]

Marduk hands are nice, but i simply wouldn't give up the +skill on af1+1 hands.

only good for regen in idle set and mnd for stoneskin even NQ AF hands are better for buffs/debuffs and if you are worried about sleep timers sha'ir gloves have -2 sec to recast

overall marduk hands could be better


forgot to mention light and earth grips earlier

[Bardlet]

Since we kinda started talking about buffs, it there a chart of the tiers anywhere for all spells?

Can find most of that info by searching in standard places.

Victory March (BGWiki)

Valor Minuet IV (otherwiki link)

• +54 Attack at 450 combined skill (natural skill cap for BRD75)
• +54 Attack at 454 combined skill
• +55 Attack at 457
• +55 Attack at 461
• +56 Attack at 462 (+12 skill)
• +56 Attack at 488
• +56 Attack at 529 (+79 skill)— so it seems that +56 is the cap.
• Cornette +1 adds +5 Attack.
• Each Merit upgrade of Minuet effect adds +1 Attack.
• +66 Attack, is the hard cap.

Blade Madrigal (otherwiki link)

• +27 Accuracy at combined skill 454-471.
• +28 Accuracy at combined skill 472-489.
• +29 Accuracy at combined skill 490-507.
• +30 Accuracy at combined skill 508-553.
• Traversiere +1 adds +4 Accuracy.
• Merits add +1 Accuracy per upgrade.

[Baha]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=13833&sid=5
3CHR, yay~

[Tradition]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=13833&sid=5
3CHR, yay~

ALERT THE MEDIA

RAVEN IS COMING TO SIX FLAGS

[Zhais]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=13833&sid=5
3CHR, yay~

But it doesn't have +14 hp and mp!